Star Wars IX: The Rise of Skywalker Trailer

Legatus_Legionis

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So you can do a clone/essence transfer as was done in the Dark Empire Comics.

Or..

You can use Sith holocrons or flashback sequences (as has been rumoured).
 

Zardnaar

Hero
So you can do a clone/essence transfer as was done in the Dark Empire Comics.

Or..

You can use Sith holocrons or flashback sequences (as has been rumoured).
Hope they don't go Dark Empire unless its an outright clone perhaps. Dark Empire wasn't a good part of the old EU. Theres a variety of ways they can go with it, several make sense in universe (DS spirit, clones, Operation Cinder Droids).
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
So that opening scene with Rey and the TIE Interceptor. It doesn’t shoot at her, just chases her up close at ground level. Whoever is piloting it doesn’t want to kill her (you’d fire the ship’s guns at her, probably from much higher up in a strafing run).

So is this some kind of training exercise?
 

Dioltach

Adventurer
So is this some kind of training exercise?
Question 1. A TIE Interceptor is coming at you at ground level. You are armed with a lightsaber. What do you do?
A. Kill it with your mind.
B. Wait until it is close, then run away.
C. Jump on top of it.
D. Other: ......
 

Zardnaar

Hero
Question 1. A TIE Interceptor is coming at you at ground level. You are armed with a lightsaber. What do you do?
A. Kill it with your mind.
B. Wait until it is close, then run away.
C. Jump on top of it.
D. Other: ......
A use the force and nudge it into the ground. It was flying very very low.
 

Istbor

Explorer
Loved the Lando sighting. I had heard that each of the movies were also going to be wrapping up an arc of a character from the original trilogy - Han, Luke, then Leia. (That's what I think the whole training of Poe to be more than a hot shot pilot was in TLJ.) Carrie Fisher's untimely and saddening death may have caused a rejiggering of that, and having Lando show up as their legacy character may help complete that.

Oh, and enjoy this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFqtwlTXTPY&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2tK0Q2VBlbAs19Vtkwma5bbKKL1YSEadomicH66JKSbRDpwvEtTaJKdjI
I tried to enjoy that clip. However, I can't hear that song, and not picture the scene from Shawn of the Dead.

Its been a few days, and man. This is a good 'teaser' trailer. Its got me thinking about possibilities way too much. And wishing it was coming soon. We just got out of Winter here, what is wrong with me!? Damn you Star Wars!
 

GreyLord

Adventurer
My gamble...

Palps survives NOT as Palpatine, but an essence or holocron via a piece of equipment that Kylo has been carrying. It may be that piece of roundish yellow item that you see in the trailer...it might not.

Of course, if Luke could be resurrected, so could Palps theoretically. The question is...is that what actually happens or not...

On the Death Star item, it seems everyone is saying it is the Death Star, but seems quite small to me. Curvature on the size of the Death Star Would be several times on the order of that...but then...who pays attention to the size of things in the OT anymore?

If it was a piece of it (but not the outer portion), why does it have a triangular backside?

Still, it would be interesting if it landed on ENDOR rather than it's moon. Does the moon even have oceans?

Which has more water and oceans...the Moon of Endor or Yavin 4?

Interesting debate.
 

hawkeyefan

Explorer
I always thought the name of the moon was Endor, not the name of the planet. I don't know that the planet was ever named in the movie. I think maybe in one of the novels or comics, but those no longer count.

I don't see why it couldn't have an ocean, other than that it breaks from traditional Star Wars tropes of each planet being primarily one type of environment....a desert planet, a city planet, an ice planet, and so on. Obviously, the single environment planets are silly when you give it any thought, so it'll be interesting to see how they handle that. If it's not the moon of Endor, then I don't see why a large chunk of the Death Star couldn't have been propelled from the explosion and wound up landing on another system.

But I think that it's definitely the Death Star wreckage; the location of Palpatine's death, combined with his laughter as voice over, with Luke saying "no one's ever really gone....." makes it a pretty sure thing to me.
 

Istbor

Explorer
I always thought the name of the moon was Endor, not the name of the planet. I don't know that the planet was ever named in the movie. I think maybe in one of the novels or comics, but those no longer count.

I don't see why it couldn't have an ocean, other than that it breaks from traditional Star Wars tropes of each planet being primarily one type of environment....a desert planet, a city planet, an ice planet, and so on. Obviously, the single environment planets are silly when you give it any thought, so it'll be interesting to see how they handle that. If it's not the moon of Endor, then I don't see why a large chunk of the Death Star couldn't have been propelled from the explosion and wound up landing on another system.

But I think that it's definitely the Death Star wreckage; the location of Palpatine's death, combined with his laughter as voice over, with Luke saying "no one's ever really gone....." makes it a pretty sure thing to me.
Endor is a forested moon in the Star Wars universe. The moon was the site of a pivotal battle depicted in Return of the Jedi.

In a Star Wars Tales comic entitled Apocalypse Endor, an Imperial veteran of Endor refers to the moon being devastated by the impact of falling debris from the Death Star, which was blown up while in orbit around the moon. However, another character dismisses this as a myth, saying that most of the Death Star's mass was obliterated in the explosion, and that the Rebels "took care of the rest."


There also seems to be some debate on what happened to the planet Endor orbited. Like that it disappeared or was destroyed or is called Tana, or is maybe a gas giant.
 

MarkB

Hero
On the Death Star item, it seems everyone is saying it is the Death Star, but seems quite small to me. Curvature on the size of the Death Star Would be several times on the order of that...but then...who pays attention to the size of things in the OT anymore?

If it was a piece of it (but not the outer portion), why does it have a triangular backside?
I've gone back and looked, and I can't see a triangular anything, nor any back side to it - we only see it from the front.

It's tough to judge scale, but it's pretty far away, practically on the horizon across a large gap of water. It doesn't appear egregiously mis-scaled.

Still, it would be interesting if it landed on ENDOR rather than it's moon. Does the moon even have oceans?
A piece of the Death Star that large, falling from orbit, is going to create a massive crater. Massive crater plus a couple of decades of rainfall will get you a decent sized sea, on either Endor or Yavin IV.
 
A piece of the Death Star that large, falling from orbit, is going to create a massive crater. Massive crater plus a couple of decades of rainfall will get you a decent sized sea, on either Endor or Yavin IV.
Except for the fact that the Death Star would have been completely pulverized on impact, leaving virtually no trace of it - let alone a rather intact chunk, like we see in the trailer.

I'm not disagreeing with the possibility of a sea existing, mind you, or even taking issue with the chunk of Death Star existing. It just seems silly to provide scientific, logical rationale for something (the existence of the sea) in an already inherently improbable scenario (the chunk of Death Star remaining intact).

Star Wars is, in the end, at least as much fantasy as it is science fiction. This isn't Star Trek.
 

billd91

Hobbit on Quest
Star Wars is, in the end, at least as much fantasy as it is science fiction. This isn't Star Trek.
Star Trek isn’t exactly a gold standard of hard sci fi either (particularly with JJ Abrams’s fanciful sense of time and space). They just set their style dials slightly differently. Both franchises put the needs of the plot, style, and cool visuals before science.
 
Star Trek isn’t exactly a gold standard of hard sci fi either (particularly with JJ Abrams’s fanciful sense of time and space). They just set their style dials slightly differently. Both franchises put the needs of the plot, style, and cool visuals before science.
I hear what you're saying, but it is a matter of degree. Relative to Star Wars, Trek is harder science fiction, and far more rationalized, especially Next Gen in which each episode seemed to be the fictionalization of some aspect of theoretical physics. The reason why so many were pissed at the whole midichlorian explanation is that it turned the Force from a mystical (and magical) energy to something physical and scientific. You don't need to rationalize or explain the fantastic - it just needs to make sense within the context of the world. But SF has to make sense sense within our own laws of physics. In that sense, Trek is far more "pure" scifi than SW.
 

Imaculata

Adventurer
Am I alone in thinking that this trailer wasn't very exciting? There weren't a whole lot of surprises in it. Almost everyone expected Lando to return, and the emperor has returned before in expanded universe stuff. I hate to say it, but I didn't get hyped as much as when I saw the trailers of the previous two movies. It was a bit meh.
 

Zardnaar

Hero
Am I alone in thinking that this trailer wasn't very exciting? There weren't a whole lot of surprises in it. Almost everyone expected Lando to return, and the emperor has returned before in expanded universe stuff. I hate to say it, but I didn't get hyped as much as when I saw the trailers of the previous two movies. It was a bit meh.
Good but not mind blowing. Does make me want to see episode IX though, the quality will determine how often.
 
In the fiction Darth Plagueis was of the belief he had conquered Death and was more or less celebrating the fact when Darth Sideous poisoned him. Snoke (awful terrible dreadful name) could have been Darth Plagueis reincarnated, and his death in The Last Jedi (shocking film) could have been some crazy sith test of layalty - having been killed by his apprentice previously and all that.

There is also the possibility (from the fiction) that Darth Sideous had conquered time and space, which he believed was they way to defeat death. He may have been able to manipulate the dark side to move him to a different time peiod, and be back and bad.

Rey could be another "Anakin" style child, or perhaps clone of Luke Skywalker - perhaps from his lost hand, which is why she has memories and the connection to Luke Skywalker.

In any case it can't be worse than TLJ which really lost it's way.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Keep TLJ arguments to their own thread, please. We are *not* going to hijack every thread into TLJ diatribes.
 

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