Spoilers Star Wars: The Acolyte [Spoilers]

[Zardnaar]

And canceled. No big surprise tbf.

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Apparently no more Boba Fett either but looking for reliable source.

 

[Kaodi]

I want to know whether it was also cancelled in the alternate timelines where Jecki or Yord respectively did not die.

But I guess we will never know how good Vernestra really is with that weapon that should not even work.

 

[John R Davis]

It was poor.
Make a live action TV Star Wars series set between Ep4 and Ep6. Minor unsung heroes.

 

[ART!]

I mostly really enjoyed this series. I'm not super tied to canon or expanded universe stuff, so for me it's mostly about doing interesting stuff with Star Wars-y things, keeping my interest, surprising me - that kind of thing. I liked the cast, too. Did not see the switcheroo coming until it was obvious.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

And canceled. No big surprise tbf.

I think it's a little surprising in that Ahsoka, which was a considerably crappier show on literally every possible level, is apparently still getting a second season (presumably this is largely because the alternative would be really pissing Filoni off, and Disney has put him in quite a position of power).

On the other hand, Andor, which as of S1 is the best Star Wars show ever made by a considerable margin, only just barely got a second season, albeit for complex reasons, despite initially being planned as like, what was it, five seasons? So it feels like Disney has some weird ideas re: what makes the cut for a second season.

Boba Fett getting a second season would have been completely insane and extremely funny. Mandalorian has arguably been getting successively worse each season yet I presume will get another (I will let it off somewhat so long as they continue to employ Katee Sackhoff).

Hey, if Marvel can bring back Robert Downey Jr...

Yeah I wouldn't be entirely shocked if we got a "cloned Anakin" show at some point. The vagaries of cloning could allow you to even Hayden himself if it was set basically any time post-RotJ too.

 

[Rabulias]

On the other hand, Andor, which as of S1 is the best Star Wars show ever made by a considerable margin, only just barely got a second season, albeit for complex reasons, despite initially being planned as like, what was it, five seasons? So it feels like Disney has some weird ideas re: what makes the cut for a second season.

I have heard that Disney was initially very keen on the original idea of Andor being a 5 season show, with each season covering one year leading up to Rogue One. The writers, producers, and Diego Luna quickly realized that it would be an 8+ year commitment, and difficult to accomplish. And at the end of it Diego would not look as young as he was at the start of Rogue One!

In any event, I do know that Andor season 2 was announced at Star Wars Celebration in May 2022, before season 1 even aired in September 2022! I don't consider that as "barely got a second season" unless you are talking about the scope of the show I talk about above.

 

[billd91]

I think it's a little surprising in that Ahsoka, which was a considerably crappier show on literally every possible level, is apparently still getting a second season (presumably this is largely because the alternative would be really pissing Filoni off, and Disney has put him in quite a position of power).

On the other hand, Andor, which as of S1 is the best Star Wars show ever made by a considerable margin, only just barely got a second season, albeit for complex reasons, despite initially being planned as like, what was it, five seasons? So it feels like Disney has some weird ideas re: what makes the cut for a second season.

Yeah, I get that the idea of what makes a cut is kind of hard to really figure out. But I have to think that future plans and linkages are part of the calculus. Ahsoka may have had a few problems, but it reintroduced Thrawn (which people seem to like for some reason that I don't share), will likely have repercussions in other media, and it ended with a lot of unresolved questions that I think people are interested in. By comparison, The Acolyte killed most of the interesting characters we spent most of our time with leaving weirdness (Qimir, the oddball Sith, and Osha taking Mae's place at the cost of Mae's memory) in its wake. If both were on the cusp of renewal/cancellation, I can't fault Disney for picking Ahsoka to continue, and to save money on another season of The Acolyte.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

In any event, I do know that Andor season 2 was announced at Star Wars Celebration in May 2022, before season 1 even aired in September 2022! I don't consider that as "barely got a second season" unless you are talking about the scope of the show I talk about above.

Obviously we'll never know, but whilst I appreciate the "eight year commitment" claim, I feel like cutting down from four more seasons to just one probably wasn't a decision based solely on that. I strongly suspect there were other factors, particularly the political riskiness of Andor and/or (lol) its expense.

Yeah, I get that the idea of what makes a cut is kind of hard to really figure out. But I have to think that future plans and linkages are part of the calculus. Ahsoka may have had a few problems, but it reintroduced Thrawn (which people seem to like for some reason that I don't share), will likely have repercussions in other media, and it ended with a lot of unresolved questions that I think people are interested in. By comparison, The Acolyte killed most of the interesting characters we spent most of our time with leaving weirdness (Qimir, the oddball Sith, and Osha taking Mae's place at the cost of Mae's memory) in its wake. If both were on the cusp of renewal/cancellation, I can't fault Disney for picking Ahsoka to continue, and to save money on another season of The Acolyte.

I don't know if I really buy that. Thrawn is a nothing-character in Ahsoka, they completely fail to convey his menace or even really the nature of the threat he poses, because they had to plot-armour the characters too much (and to be fair, his threat is kind of one relying on his own plans having plot armour, which is sort of incompatible with the goodies having too much). And none of the other characters involved in it seem at all important to future SW (also, Filoni seems to be incapable of extracting good performances from them).

I think it's almost entirely down to not pissing off Filoni. Ahsoka, despite being pretty bad, is clearly a pet project for him, and he's involved in the Mandalorian and de facto very heavily in future of SW (especially on the small screen), and Disney seems to have hopes he'll long-term revitalize the franchise.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Obviously we'll never know, but whilst I appreciate the "eight year commitment" claim, I feel like cutting down from four more seasons to just one probably wasn't a decision based solely on that. I strongly suspect there were other factors, particularly the political riskiness of Andor and/or (lol) its expense.


I don't know if I really buy that. Thrawn is a nothing-character in Ahsoka, they completely fail to convey his menace or even really the nature of the threat he poses, because they had to plot-armour the characters too much (and to be fair, his threat is kind of one relying on his own plans having plot armour, which is sort of incompatible with the goodies having too much). And none of the other characters involved in it seem at all important to future SW (also, Filoni seems to be incapable of extracting good performances from them).

I think it's almost entirely down to not pissing off Filoni. Ahsoka, despite being pretty bad, is clearly a pet project for him, and he's involved in the Mandalorian and de facto very heavily in future of SW (especially on the small screen), and Disney seems to have hopes he'll long-term revitalize the franchise.

They should have made Thrawn a villain protagonist as he is in many of the novels, and Ahsoka the near-invincible badass Jedi antagonist he needs to overcome.

 

[ART!]

The Acolyte killed most of the interesting characters we spent most of our time with leaving weirdness (Qimir, the oddball Sith, and Osha taking Mae's place at the cost of Mae's memory) in its wake.

Yeah, if there's one thing that rubbed me the wrong way it was getting us to like a bunch of those characters and then killing them to show how badass the villain was. It was almost traumatic.