Starship Troopers 2

[Hawklord]

I'm just gonna sit back and remember Roughnecks. That is the best moving Troopers so far, right?

Roughnecks was by far the best - and they didn't kill Dizzy off, she was the best thing about the first movie (which I loved by the way ... and I love Heinlein's original).....

I even liked ST2 ... it's a cheapo low-budget horror movie set in the same universe and it did have a few nice touches ... even if ripped out of another Heinlen novel "The Puppet Masters"

 

[Krieg]

I'm just gonna sit back and remember Roughnecks. That is the best moving Troopers so far, right?

Without a doubt, unfortunately that's not exactly a difficult accomplishment.

 

[Ashrem Bayle]

Horrible...
I kinda liked the first one, but ST2 was laughably bad.
The makers of this movie should be dragged naked into the street and beaten with a rubber hose.

I fail to see how movies this terrible get made.

 

[reapersaurus]

[rant] If I here one more fan of the film claim that it's critics "just don't get it" I am going to pull their lteeth out through their rectum. The "point" of the film was far too clumsy & heavy handed not to get, the problem is that Verhoeven didn't get it.

Well, hate to break it to you, but when the movie came out, almost noone 'got' it. Don't you remember thew reviews when it came out? Most of them didn't mention the themes that are commonly brought up when discussing the film now.

So it must have been subtle enough to take almost 10 years for the mainstream impression to 'understand' what Verhoeven and the writer did.

How old are you, I'm curious?

 

[Krieg]

Well, hate to break it to you, but when the movie came out, almost noone 'got' it. Don't you remember thew reviews when it came out? Most of them didn't mention the themes that are commonly brought up when discussing the film now.

FWIW I don't typically turn to movie reviews for indepth commentary on any film.

So it must have been subtle enough to take almost 10 years for the mainstream impression to 'understand' what Verhoeven and the writer did.

In seven years it's gone from condemning the film for faithfully replicating the alleged fascism of the book to instead praising it for satirizing the same.

Since the book does portray a fascist state neither argument is valid.

Neumeier merely parroted the political views of folks who disagree with (misinterpret) the book's author. There are no deep underlying philosophical underpinnings to the film, it is little more than an attack on Heinlein.

Saved by the Bell meets The Producers IN SPACE w/hot nudes!!! No thanks.

How old are you, I'm curious?

33

 

[Mog Elffoe]

There are no deep underlying philosophical underpinnings to the film, it is little more than an attack on Heinlein.

Saved by the Bell meets The Producers IN SPACE w/hot nudes!!! No thanks.

That's pretty well sums up how I felt about about Starship Troopers the movie as well.

I do like Phil Tippett's work on the bugs, though, especially the tankers. I pop in the DVD from time to time simply for those scenes.

 

[beta-ray]

I'm just gonna sit back and remember Roughnecks. That is the best moving Troopers so far, right?

Though I thought the motion picture was a fine adaptation of the book, I wouldn't consider it a great movie (though I have to admit the bugs overrunning that one outpost was chilling).

I thought Roughnecks Starship Troopers Chronicles was excellent. And you don't have to relegate it to memory, you could always buy the DVDs. I haven't bought th emost recent and final one (just released this month in the US), but the previous DVDs were impressive to me. Each episode had a commentary on it doubling its value.