Stunning Attack and AM Field

[Hypersmurf]

A monk's stunning attack is a [Su] ability.

[Su] abilities don't work in an Antimagic Field.

If you stun someone, and then an Antimagic Field is erected - are they unstunned? Or can you merely not activate the ability within the Field?

-Hyp.

 

[Henrix]

Well, it may sound a little weird, but the stunning effect would be suppressed, i.e. the target is unstunned, just as if it had been a spell with a duration of one round.

 

[Darklone]

Weird. Just as non paralyzable creatures not being immune to stun.... (is it?)

 

[Henrix]

Hopefully stun gets a bit clarified come july

 

[dravot]

I would say that the ability to make such an attack would be suppressed, but anyone stunned by such an attack would still remain stunned in an AM field.

 

[CrimsonTemplar]

I would say that the ability to make such an attack would be suppressed, but anyone stunned by such an attack would still remain stunned in an AM field.

I'd have to agree. Stunning someone is a spell-like ability, so it shouldn't be possible to use that form of attack in the AM field. Once they're stunned it shouldn't go away because there's suddenly an anit-magic field. It's not the mystical abilities of the Monk that are keeping them stunned, it's that they've been whacked upside the head and are a bit out of it.

 

[Henrix]

What you are saying is that it ought to be an extraordinary ability, which I agree with.

But I think that supernatural abilities should give supernatural effects.

 

[CrimsonTemplar]

What you are saying is that it ought to be an extraordinary ability, which I agree with.

But I think that supernatural abilities should give supernatural effects.

Oh yeah, I agree that the Stunning Attack should be re-worded for 3.5. It seems cheap to take away an attack that a level 1 monk can use because they are in an AM field. Ki strike I can see, since it gives the same bonus as a magical weapon...it has a supernatural effect. Stunning Attack can be replicated by a kick to the crotch ("called shot to the nuts.")

 

[Number47]

I think the question is, does stunning attack cause an effect (stunning) that has a duration, or is stunning attack an instantaneous effect, that causes a condition (stunned) that might persist? I think that, just as suffering damage and being caught on fire from a fireball wouldn't go away in an AMF, neither would the stunned condition.

 

[Henrix]

Stunned is, just like any other condition, dependent on what causes it.
If you are paralyzed by poison (ex), you're still paralyzed in an AM, but if you're paralyzed by a spell, or supernatural ability, the paralysis is suppressed by the AM.