Superman < Batman < Iron Man

[delericho]

Outside of Dark Knight Rises I haven't known Bruce to be vulnerable like that. Movies take liberties and I wouldn't place too much stock in that aspect. ... However, if you want to pull movies into it, Stark lost control of his business to Stane, so it's a wash

Yeah, my point was not "Tony wins, because money", but rather "money matters".

Bruce is far, far more ruthless than Tony every will be, in every arena.

Well, except that Bruce won't kill and won't use guns; Tony has no problem with either.

 

[Maxperson]

Yeah, my point was not "Tony wins, because money", but rather "money matters".

Well, except that Bruce won't kill and won't use guns; Tony has no problem with either.

Money matters and they both have enough money to use, so it's still a wash. Since it's a wash, it then goes to planning and Bruce blows Tony out of the water with both planning and ruthlessness. As for guns, the Batmobile had guns in one of the movies, since you like to use the movies, and Batman has used guns many times in the comics, so yes Bruce will use guns. He just doesn't use them unless they are necessary to win.

 

[Maxperson]

And just as an FYI, some of Batman's "Iron Man" type suits of the years have had blasters/lasers, so he's not against using them if he needs to.

https://numberonebatfan.wordpress.com/2014/11/08/top-5-coolest-batman-exo-suits/

 

[delericho]

Money matters and they both have enough money to use, so it's still a wash. Since it's a wash, it then goes to planning and Bruce blows Tony out of the water with both planning and ruthlessness.

If you're going to discount money because they've both got plenty, then I'm going to discount planning and ruthlessness too, since again, they've both got plenty. So it's a wash all around.

 

[Maxperson]

If you're going to discount money because they've both got plenty, then I'm going to discount planning and ruthlessness too, since again, they've both got plenty. So it's a wash all around.

Except they both really do have so much money that it just doesn't matter. If they are only every going to use 10% or less of their wealth on the endeavor, it's irrelevant how much they have. Now, if this was a contest on who could beat the other 20 times first, THEN money would play a part. Planning and ruthlessness on the other hand, does matter. Unlike money, the vastly greater amount of planning and ruthlessness possessed by Bruce leaves Tony with no chance. The two things are not equal, so they can't be discounted equally.

 

[delericho]

Planning and ruthlessness on the other hand, does matter. Unlike money, the vastly greater amount of planning and ruthlessness possessed by Bruce leaves Tony with no chance.

Nope. Because Bruce's alleged ruthlessness fails when it really matters. He won't kill. Which means Tony gets to come back, and when he does he won't make the same mistake.

 

[Umbran]

Planning and ruthlessness on the other hand, does matter. Unlike money, the vastly greater amount of planning and ruthlessness possessed by Bruce leaves Tony with no chance.

Did you, by chance, read Civil War? Because I don't think there's much call to say that somehow Batman is notably more ruthless - Batman may have planned to take down his fellow Justice League members. But Stark actually did go after his friends and allies, using deadly force, psychological manipulation, the whole banana.

 

[megamania]

Tony is a real....... can't say it here.

Changing the subject some but it seems Tony as changed over time as our thoughts of big industry change. In the 60's he was a force of good. In the 80's it was "drunk" on its rising power. Now- too powerful.......

 

[Kramodlog]

Maybe they'll try to seduce the other guy's girl(s), to hurt the other's feelings.

 

[Umbran]

Tony is a real....... can't say it here.

Yep. No argument here. I think the movies are doing a better job of making him be a real ..... seem at least understandable than the comics do. Robert Downey Jr actually has some experience of being the jerk at the bottom of a bottle, and he does an excellent job of depicting the complexity.

Changing the subject some but it seems Tony as changed over time as our thoughts of big industry change.

Yes. I think that's one of the cool things about the character, actually. He's so useful in that sense. He can even be used to show how industry is a good and a bad thing in the same darned issue of a comic!