Superman < Batman < Iron Man

[Tonguez]

I like the idea of Batman being at the top of the superhero food chain. Not sure why. Maybe it seems deserved. Not because of his parents, but because he as the discipline to get there. Or maybe its the black tights.

I agree to some degree and actually think that this is why Batman wins every time. Batman knows he is physically weaker than his super opponents and in this case that includes a suited-up Ironman. Batman has great physical health and skills but in the end he doesn't rely on them. What he does rely on is his tactical mind, his willpower and ruthlessness.

I even think that covers his not using guns - everyone else has a crutch, be it a gun, ironmans suit or Supermans powers, but every one of those things is a slight distraction that can be exploited and that its where Batman succeeds. He has learnt to exploit the distractions

Batman represents the common mans fight against the gods, we all know that Bruce Wayne is just a disguise

but I have to agree with Umbran, Ironman following the zeitgeist of the industrial economy is the coolest apsect of his character

 

[Umbran]

Batman represents the common mans fight against the gods, we all know that Bruce Wayne is just a disguise

Except there is nothing "common" about Bruce Wayne.

 

[Maxperson]

Nope. Because Bruce's alleged ruthlessness fails when it really matters. He won't kill. Which means Tony gets to come back, and when he does he won't make the same mistake.

We aren't discussing killing though, only who would beat who. Thank you for finally admitting that Tony "gets to come back" after Bruce whoops his rear

 

[Maxperson]

Did you, by chance, read Civil War? Because I don't think there's much call to say that somehow Batman is notably more ruthless - Batman may have planned to take down his fellow Justice League members. But Stark actually did go after his friends and allies, using deadly force, psychological manipulation, the whole banana.

Batman successfully faced down Darkseid with a bomb because he was willing to do what was necessary and Darkseid knew it. To answer your question, though, no I didn't read that. Tony probably became more ruthless than I remember.

 

[Tonguez]

Except there is nothing "common" about Bruce Wayne.

yep and thats what makes it such a brilliant disguise

 

[Umbran]

yep and thats what makes it such a brilliant disguise

But makes him a lousy stand in for the "common man".

 

[delericho]

We aren't discussing killing though, only who would beat who. Thank you for finally admitting that Tony "gets to come back" after Bruce whoops his rear

If Bruce whoops his rear. I don't acknowledge that that's a sure thing in the first place.

 

[Maxperson]

If Bruce whoops his rear. I don't acknowledge that that's a sure thing in the first place.

You didn't say if, you said "And when Tony gets back..." However, if you want to back pedal, that's fine. Taking back what has already happened is very comic book like.

 

[Staffan]

Yep. No argument here. I think the movies are doing a better job of making him be a real ..... seem at least understandable than the comics do. Robert Downey Jr actually has some experience of being the jerk at the bottom of a bottle, and he does an excellent job of depicting the complexity.

Yeah, my thought when I heard Robert Downey Jr had been cast as Tony Stark was "Well, if someone knows how to play an arrogant playboy with a substance abuse problem..."

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

Turns out that Bruce Wayne would get beaten like a redheaded step-child by Tony Stark.

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2015/10/th...e-to-bruce-wayne-and-hello-to-the-new-batman/