Nope. That's a different question. A question that begs the question, even.KarinsDad said:The real question is:
Can there be a battle if one side is unaware of it?
FWIW, I agree with this bit.KarinsDad said:I think they are more aware of potential danger and the form it might take, but they are not actually aware of their opponents until they open the door. Otherwise, this opens a can of worms with regard to every door in the future.
Quite possibly.Ridley's Cohort said:If the Spectre detects half the party, does the other half get to surprise the spectre?
Now that.....that is a good question.Ridley's Cohort said:What if they expected an evil spectre and open the door to be greeted by an evil dragon?
KarinsDad said:This is incorrect. Awareness is also relevant before combat starts.
RAW itself states that you can be aware rounds in advance in order to prepare.
Even if you rule that combat itself does not start until you can potentially attack (which is reasonable), RAW still states that the aware side can prepare ahead of time and also, the side that is aware gets a free standard action before initiative is ever rolled.
KarinsDad said:Not opponents who are Newcomers. They come in much later and do not get to take combat actions until they get there.
KarinsDad said:RAW itself states that you can be aware rounds in advance in order to prepare.
TheEvil said:Actually, if the PCs went throught the door the round after the Spectre became aware of them, then they and the golems would roll initiative as normal, since being notified during the suprise round doesn't allow them to act. If it does, then I have been seriously screwed over by GMs.
Thanee said:You cannot attack your allies, only opponents.
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Thanee