D&D 5E Survivor Alignment: LN imposes order!

[Yunru]

Nah, best example of LN is Thane (Thrane?) from Mass Effect 2. Don't forget it's not necessarily the law, it can be a code of conduct or personal code too.

 

[Delazar]

Lawful Good 9
Neutral Good 13 (+)
Lawful Neutral 13
Neutral 7
Lawful Evil 7 (-)

 

[delericho]

Nah, best example of LN is Thane (Thrane?) from Mass Effect 2.

I'm not familiar with either the character or the game. I don't hold with these new-fangled difference engine contraptions.

Don't forget it's not necessarily the law, it can be a code of conduct or personal code too.

I hadn't forgotten. Though following a code of conduct or personal code isn't enough - it has to be a lawful code. (And, equally, simply following the law isn't enough either - despite sounding like a contradiction in terms, it is actually possible to have a law or body of laws that is, in fact, not Lawful.)

But we're drifting off topic again...

 

[Yunru]

Naw it doesn't.

Lawful neutral (LN) individuals act in accordance with law, tradition, or personal codes. Many monks and some wizards are lawful neutral.

The keyword there being that "or" operator.

 

[delericho]

Naw it doesn't.
The keyword there being that "or" operator.

There's a very simple counter-example there: Two-Face. He clearly follows a personal code: he tosses a coin to make his key decisions. And yet it is equally clearly a chaotic (and, indeed, truly random) personal code for the same reason.

 

[Yunru]

But Two-Face isn't DnD Chaotix. He doesn't do what he wants, doesn't value freedom, he adheres to his personal code of letting luck decide.

Two-Face, for as random as he is, isn't Chaotic.

 

[delericho]

But Two-Face isn't DnD Chaotix.

Arguably (though I would disagree), he's not 5e Chaotic.

But 5e very deliberately has a vastly condensed set of alignment descriptors. There's been a hell of a lot more written about D&D alignments than just what appears in the 5e Basic Rules (and PHB). And, yeah, prior to 5e he most certainly is Chaotic.

 

[delericho]

Anyway, I do apologise for the derailment.

Since we've moved to a new page, the current votes are:

Lawful Good 9
Neutral Good 13
Lawful Neutral 13
Neutral 7
Lawful Evil 7

Note that I haven't changed these scores - they're just repeats from the last votes cast. (I've already voted today.)

 

[Chaosmancer]

Lawful Good 9
Neutral Good 10
Lawful Neutral 13
Neutral 7
Lawful Evil 8

What strange turn is this, I can actually vote a third time? This one has taken longer than all the others.

For all those decrying evil, let me ask you, where would our parties and heroes be without the honorable Black Knight to stand and oppose us, or Asmodeus to threaten the world? All other evil has been laid to waste, but what a boring world if none were to stand against us. So I strike down "general goodness", as it is our biggest opposition

 

[Handle]

Lawful Good 9
Neutral Good 7
Lawful Neutral 13
Neutral 7
Lawful Evil 9

Down with vanilla, long live dapper villians!