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OB1
Jedi Master
Had you voted against Meteor Swarm instead of Gate with your last vote, Swarm would have been knocked out...
dave2008
Legend
It does not. From the spell description: "This spell as no effect on constructs or undead"
Son of the Serpent
Pupil
That is super NOPE.
Use of that word as a slur OR it’s derived pejorative violates ENWorld’s ToS.
Use of that word as a slur OR it’s derived pejorative violates ENWorld’s ToS.
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doctorbadwolf
Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Um...what the hell, forums? Is there a way to set it so that threads always show all posts?
I literally cannot imagine ever wanting to see fewer posts just because there’s a lot of them.
I literally cannot imagine ever wanting to see fewer posts just because there’s a lot of them.
dave2008
Legend
Please don't use the term "gay" pejoratively
Please don’t quote posts you suspect may violate ENWorld’s ToS.
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Son of the Serpent
Pupil
Its effectively a different word with the same spelling. Wasnt talking about the sexuality. If i was that would be a different story and i might consider it a reasonable criticism. The idea of the word gay meaning stupid is older than its use for a sexuality. Its tied more to gay as in happy. As in stupid and happy. I find it exceptable.
dave2008
Legend
Hmm, seems to me you don't get it. You used a word pojoratively that is central to many peoples identity. That fact the word has many meanings is part of the issue, not a solution. If you wanted to say something was "stupid" why didn't you just use that word?
I gave you some advice, you can choose to take it or not, but that is the extent of my conversation on the matter.
Son of the Serpent
Pupil
Because i wished to express that it was blissfully stupid and three letters is a lot shorter. And because i view myself to have used a different word with the same spelling.
Further the sexuality it represents is integral to the identity. Not the word which has many meanings.
Respectfully, I choose not to take the advice. I wish you well though.
Phazonfish
B-Rank Agent
The amount of time you are saving is quite small. The vast majority of people who hear you speak like this will likely not fully understand your intent, and even a thorough explanation isn't a guarantee they would believe you. Is the time save really worth it?
Son of the Serpent
Pupil
1 i disagree - blissfully stupid - i save 4 syllables if speaking vocally and 14 characters if writing
2 i also disagree - i think 99% of people know exactly what i mean because i dont think that many people are stupid or ignorant. I give people that credit until they prove me wrong. Thats what i think
3 again i disagree. Unless they are being disingenuous (in which case they are dishonest and should be ignored) i think the majority of the wide public will know exactly what i mean
4 yes, speaking comfortably is worth whatever "it" is. Ive broken no rule. Its not even the same word. Similarly, singular sheep and plural sheep are not one word with two meanings. Its literally two words with the same spelling. Dictionaries dont generally bother pointing out that distinction but its the case. The same goes for the word in question.
5 weve deviated quite far from the purpose of this thread and im beginning to feel like we should end it here so im going to do so. My position has been made clear and explained thoroughly
CleverNickName
Limit Break Dancing
1. We all know that saving syllables (or space, since this is a written medium and not a spoken one) was not your motivation here. This point is moot.
2. We all know what you meant to write. The larger issue (that you are ignoring) is that what you did write is frowned upon, because it is offensive to many people. You should take @dave2008 's advice, so as to not appear oafish and belligerent in a public forum.
3. See #2, above.
4. It was never a vocabulary issue, it's a public perception issue. When you speak or write, you get to choose your words...but you don't get to choose how others react to the words you have chosen. Just some food for thought.
5. That is probably for the best. For the record, your position was never unclear and an explanation wasn't ever necessary.
2. We all know what you meant to write. The larger issue (that you are ignoring) is that what you did write is frowned upon, because it is offensive to many people. You should take @dave2008 's advice, so as to not appear oafish and belligerent in a public forum.
3. See #2, above.
4. It was never a vocabulary issue, it's a public perception issue. When you speak or write, you get to choose your words...but you don't get to choose how others react to the words you have chosen. Just some food for thought.
5. That is probably for the best. For the record, your position was never unclear and an explanation wasn't ever necessary.
Son of the Serpent
Pupil
Im a lazy typer. Space i dont care about. The time necessary to type more characters is another matter.
You can ascribe whatever motivation you like. Dont really care at this point.
You should care. See mod edit to the post that initiated this particular line of discussion.
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Phazonfish
B-Rank Agent
compare it to the number of characters across multiple posts you had to use defending your use of it though, doesn't seem time efficient
If people knew exactly what you meant we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I'm just saying, you seem quite exasperated by this topic, and there is an easy way to avoid it in the future.
Son of the Serpent
Pupil
i didnt spend all these posts saying words who's summed meaning is "stupid".
I was arguing. I actually dont think i need a defense. Anyway. Said i was finished. So. Bye.
Yeah, or we could not deliberately say offensive things, and when other people say offensive things about a people group we don’t belong in, we can let that people group defend themselves and decide for themselves whether or not they’re going to get offended or just ignore it.
A compliment can only be given, but offense can only be taken. You have to choose to take offense. Getting all upset that someone says something you think is potentially offensive to someone else is pointless and ridiculous.
And saying something you know people will irrationally get bent out of shape for and then sayin “Get over it, I say what I want” is childish.
So, children, move it to a private message, because you’re overshadowing the fact that Meteor Storm just beat out Wish as the top 9th lvl spell.
A compliment can only be given, but offense can only be taken. You have to choose to take offense. Getting all upset that someone says something you think is potentially offensive to someone else is pointless and ridiculous.
And saying something you know people will irrationally get bent out of shape for and then sayin “Get over it, I say what I want” is childish.
So, children, move it to a private message, because you’re overshadowing the fact that Meteor Storm just beat out Wish as the top 9th lvl spell.
The thread got swarmed 
Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
I'd take Shapechange over Meteor Swarm any day of the week and 10 times over the weekend.sooooo .... if someone found a genie in a bottle, and it said "no Wishes for you, but you cna have a Meteor Swarm," most of you would be happy with that?
