[SWSE] A New Fear (OOC)

snakejawz · Dec 5, 2009

as said before i may be mistaken.
i havent run any 3.5e games in awhile and my knowledge of the rules is rusty.
Jake can clarify better (especially since he made the character)

JediJake · Dec 5, 2009

ffanxii4ever said:
That's it?
I was asking because it was a full attack at the end of a charge which is killer

Close, it was a full attack at the end of a surge, Mobile Assault is a talent in Kotor.

Genetic-Jackhammer · Dec 5, 2009

you mean mobile attack from kotor? which allows you to move AFTER a full attack with 2 lightsaber, you can move... you moved before hand and attacked.... so i think you got the order of operations mixed up.
a surge is a swifts action that increases your speed and jump... and not an actual move its self... unless its another house rule?

JediJake · Dec 5, 2009

Genetic-Jackhammer said:
you mean mobile attack from kotor? which allows you to move AFTER a full attack with 2 lightsaber, you can move... you moved before hand and attacked.... so i think you got the order of operations mixed up.
a surge is a swifts action that increases your speed and jump... and not an actual move its self... unless its another house rule?

You are absolutely right, which makes that talent decidedly special. I'm toying with the idea that everyone should get to use their move and attack actions together with full attacks. I've done this with my 3.5 games and its worked extremely well. The battlefield is always shifting and a person with mobile assault would be able to move between his attacks.

snakejawz · Dec 8, 2009

wait until they find out what i did with all those credits. :evil smile:

JediJake · Dec 8, 2009

HA! I can't wait till they get a loada the new guy.

Also, if you want to buy gear, go ahead and do it, Garv will put it on for free.

ffanxii4ever · Dec 8, 2009

JediJake said:
You are absolutely right, which makes that talent decidedly special. I'm toying with the idea that everyone should get to use their move and attack actions together with full attacks. I've done this with my 3.5 games and its worked extremely well. The battlefield is always shifting and a person with mobile assault would be able to move between his attacks.

Right so surge now allows you to move the distance appropiate to your UtF check and Mobile Attack (lightsabers) allows you to move your speed after a full attack?

Additional List of Questions:
1) And since we get mucho money now, are we still able to purchase upgrades for equipment?
2) And if so is it the greater of one tenth the original cost of the item or 1000 credits?
3) And how many upgrades can the Katarn Class (the light armor) have, not counting the built-in generator? 2? (By upgrades I am talking of the Tech Specialist upgrades)
4) And if we are at the limit of upgrades/mods can we remove one to add another in its place?

Genetic-Jackhammer · Dec 8, 2009

I had a few questions as well..

1. so after reading the book on how to attack items... am i correct to assume to attack an item its 10+size mod,+ref defense of person holding item ( minus armor bonus and natural armor if any)

So if i attacked Arkan's light saber i would need a 10+1+17=28
17= 10 + 1 (1/2 lvl) + 4 (DEX) + 1 (Soldier) + 1 (misc)

which i would have to role a 19 or better to hit!!!

2. can we gain the stunt bonus force point, on force powers? since force powers now require an attack roll as well as a skill check.

3. if we gain a free force (action point) from the stunt system, can we still use a force point to preform a force powers special bonus?

4. are we aloud to retrain at all when we lvl, there was a talent, and possible a feat i would like to change now that i know some of the house rules and the prestige system better?

snakejawz · Dec 8, 2009

since i talk to jake often, i'll try to field some of these.

1: no the item wouldnt get 10 twice.it would be 18. 10 + 1 (1/2 lvl) + 4 (DEX) + 1 (Soldier) + 1 (misc, if this applies to the item) +1 (size, is this the size of the whole lightsaber or just the handle? i would use size mods for just the handle since the rest is indestructable, would be +4 or 8 i think)

2: need jake's thoughts (i think anything thats really cool will get a stunt point)

3: he sorta let Sam do this in the last game. (the rock throwing was uber cool)

4: jake let me retrain something i hadnt used, so i'd assume yes.

JediJake · Dec 8, 2009

ffanxii4ever said:
Right so surge now allows you to move the distance appropiate to your UtF check and Mobile Attack (lightsabers) allows you to move your speed after a full attack?

Additional List of Questions:
1) And since we get mucho money now, are we still able to purchase upgrades for equipment?
2) And if so is it the greater of one tenth the original cost of the item or 1000 credits?
3) And how many upgrades can the Katarn Class (the light armor) have, not counting the built-in generator? 2? (By upgrades I am talking of the Tech Specialist upgrades)
4) And if we are at the limit of upgrades/mods can we remove one to add another in its place?

Surge works like normal, adding the move speed to your regular speed, mobile assault lets you break up your move and attacks any way you want. If you have three attacks and speed 20 and three enemies in a row, you can attack move attack move attack. Normal people can move full attack.
1)Yes 2)Triple the price if it goes on your armor to 3000, gear as normal. 3)I've given this one some additional thought, after master debating with myself, Katarn class armor also has the following Mandalorian Upgrades; Integrated equipment 5, internal generator, helmet package, and three free upgrade slots. Krayt has the same stuff, but four upgrade slots. Adding a tech specialist upgrade costs a slot. Your original "Special Gear" item does not count towards this number of upgrades.

Genetic-Jackhammer said:
I had a few questions as well..

1. so after reading the book on how to attack items... am i correct to assume to attack an item its 10+size mod,+ref defense of person holding item ( minus armor bonus and natural armor if any)

So if i attacked Arkan's light saber i would need a 10+1+17=28
17= 10 + 1 (1/2 lvl) + 4 (DEX) + 1 (Soldier) + 1 (misc)

which i would have to role a 19 or better to hit!!!

2. can we gain the stunt bonus force point, on force powers? since force powers now require an attack roll as well as a skill check.

3. if we gain a free force (action point) from the stunt system, can we still use a force point to preform a force powers special bonus?

4. are we aloud to retrain at all when we lvl, there was a talent, and possible a feat i would like to change now that i know some of the house rules and the prestige system better?

1]Yes, a sunder attack is an ion burst is a force disarm attack. It's far more difficult to yank the guns out of soldiers hands or deactivate lightsabers with a thought, thats why Qui Gon, didn't blow up Maul's saber. Vader showed his overwhelming power by ripping Han's blaster from him.
2]Stunting I have decided is a swift action, so sure!
3]Yes, you can and should as stunt force points are lost after combat ends.
4]Certainly, If you aren't happy with your character concept or execution you can change it, I would much prefer that you lose a power that you havent used in game yet to do it though.