tattoos, spikes, punk, and goth in D&D images?

[Lela]

For those of you who hate the 3E art, is there any recent artwork put out nowadays you DO like? And why all the anime bashing?

In my opinion, I think this thread is similar to the old "why my edition is better than your edition" thread. Just add "art" into the equation.

Oh, posh. Keep the Straw Man and Ad Hominem out of this.

Actually, I enjoy anime. Usually, though, they tend to tell a story and have other elements besides the character involved. Depending on the anime they even add realistic textures.

To take an extreme D&D example, open up F&P to the sections on lesser known deities. Notice that they look like they were done in water color. I don't mind watercolor (though it isn't my favorite) but that's not what I'm looking for to spark my imagnination. The 3E core books all feel like that to some degree. At least to my group. It feels like they were a rush to put something down and move on. I realize it's necisary but that doesn't mean I would give them an award for art.

3.5e is quite different. They really put time into the new artwork and I get a much better feeling from it. Especially in the MM. The monsters actually feel like they're coming alive and being all monstery.

 

[dreaded_beast]

Oh, posh. Keep the Straw Man and Ad Hominem out of this.

Sure, if you can tell me what the above means. Although, I don't think I will like the answer.

 

[rounser]

For those of you who hate the 3E art, is there any recent artwork put out nowadays you DO like? And why all the anime bashing?

Yup. Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting. Same artists, different style. And I'm not one of the "anime bashers" and don't agree that it looks like anime (anime art with a D&D vibe would look quite cool I think).

 

[SSquirrel]

Yup. Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting. Same artists, different style. And I'm not one of the "anime bashers" and don't agree that it looks like anime (anime art with a D&D vibe would look quite cool I think).

It does, it's called Record of Lodoss War (first series I've seen, not the second).

Lost my train of thought. For the guy bitching about the way Mystra loks in the Faiths and Pantheons book I have to strongly disagree. I mean she just got dumped by a real stiff (well he IS Lord Death ya know) and now it's time for her to strut her stuff and show off. Or, a bit more seriously, consideri t this way. Mystra has MANY different followers and wouldn't the goddess present herself to her followers in a fashion that fits with their beliefs and such rather than always staying some boring sorceress in a robe? I think it's a very cool picture and a defnite change for Mystra. I liked it and wouldn't mind seeing more of it. At the time I first saw this image, WOTC had announced that novel on Loviatar and my wife and I were perusing the book for ideas and saw their respective pix and thought they were both rather cool.

I have an overactive imagination. Scenes can be cool from time to time, but I imagine some very cool stuff with the more open pictures 3E provided

Hagen

 

[Pants]

Trampier = teh suck, the proportions, the shading, all awful.
Otus = I hate his style
Parkinson = rocks. Parkinson has always been good.
Caldwell = pretty damn impressive
Dee = man, that paladin has the most illogical looking helmet ever. Besides, what kind of armor is THAT?
Sutherland = read my analysis of Trampier

All IMO of course.

 

[WayneLigon]

For those of you who hate the 3E art, is there any recent artwork put out nowadays you DO like? And why all the anime bashing?

Probably some of the best art I've seen in a non-WOTC product is in Dark Haven Legends: The Eldest Son (artists Tim Collier and James Burrell), and in the Malhavok Press books.

 

[SSquirrel]

Probably some of the best art I've seen in a non-WOTC product is in Dark Haven Legends: The Eldest Son (artists Tim Collier and James Burrell), and in the Malhavok Press books.

And on a vaguely related thread, here's a quick pimp move:my friend Chris Boll does the best cartography work out there. He works for Necromancer Games mostly but he has also done some other work....a recent CoC book had a remake of an old map and they had Chris do that in trade for some goodies. Naturally they forgot his credit, but he wrote himself in as the cartographer as if he had been the 20's guy who did it.

Heh. Sorry had to do that.

Hagen

 

[Lela]

Lost my train of thought. For the guy bitching about the way Mystra loks in the Faiths and Pantheons book I have to strongly disagree. I mean she just got dumped by a real stiff (well he IS Lord Death ya know) and now it's time for her to strut her stuff and show off. Or, a bit more seriously, consideri t this way. Mystra has MANY different followers and wouldn't the goddess present herself to her followers in a fashion that fits with their beliefs and such rather than always staying some boring sorceress in a robe? I think it's a very cool picture and a defnite change for Mystra.

It's certainly a change but there's nothing to support it, unless there's been a recent change to FR that I don't know about (which is entirely possible). But at the time the piece was created there wasn't.

As to her having many different kinds of worshipers, yes she does. But, no she doesn't change for any of them. In fact, you may recall that she was nearly thrown from goddhood for her unwillingness to assume the full office.

Of course, I'd be happy to have you point out a new FR book involving a change with Mystra. I enjoy her storylines.

Sure, if you can tell me what the above means. Although, I don't think I will like the answer.

Ad Hominem is attacking the person rather than the argument and Straw Man is distorting the argument to make it easier to disprove. I meant no offense by either. Thus the posh.

 

[evildm]

...anime art with a D&D vibe would look quite cool I think.

*cough*

http://www.weewung.com/gallery/arnistotle/duncov.jpg

http://www.weewung.com/gallery/arnistotle/05.jpg



(I'd post the full images, but they're huge, so links are more prudent)

 

[Bloodstone Press]

I like both the old art and the new. Dee’s Paladin looks more like a comic book super hero than a DnD character, and that’s ok with me. I don’t mind pictures of dungeon-punk super heroes. I also like images with backgrounds and implied stories, like the one found on page 160 of the 3.5 DMG (notice the law Vs chaos). Both styles are good for their own reasons.