Temple of Elemental Evil discussion thread (merged)

[Erekose]

Planescape Torment was the business - by far the best CRPG so far!

 

[green slime]

Well, I purchased this game last week, And I've thoroughly enjoyed it. I've encountered numerous small bugs, but no crashes yet. I have yet to get past the moathouse as I restarted in Ironman mode, and I'm back at the moathouse.

Halfway to 3rd level

Human Paladin
Human Fighter (spiked Chain)
Human Cleric of Obadhai
Human Wizard
Halfling Rogue

My main complaints have been the lack of solid documentation.

It shouldn't take 15 minutes of frustration to find out that you click on the tiny yellow plus sign that appeared above the character potrait to level.

Cure spells shouldn't be buried deep in the text far away from descriptions on spontaneous spellcasting.

I have yet to work out how to apply my metamagic feat to the spells.

The interface can be rather clunky at times: Selecting a spell to memorize can require several attempts to place a spell in a slot. Also as a specialist wizard, you need to re-memorize your specialty spells every time you level, as it is those slots which apparently become free each level.

In Ironman mode, the "Save and Quit" selection does nothing, while the "Return to Game" saves and quits!

I also experienced some strange calculation of Skill totals: at 3rd level , cross class skills only granted 2,5 ranks, inspite of having placed 6 skill points into those skills.

 

[Fyrie]

Planescape Torment was the business - by far the best CRPG so far!

I'll 2nd that opinion.

 

[Joseph Elric Smith]

I also experienced some strange calculation of Skill totals: at 3rd level , cross class skills only granted 2,5 ranks, inspite of having placed 6 skill points into those skills.

I thought at 3rd level the highest a cross class skill could be was 2
Ken

 

[Aulayan]

Interesting, are you meaning they were removed for copyright issues? But I guess that the developers must have been in constant contact with WotC, otherwise how could they write the game with 3.5 rules before the rules were published?

No, it wasn't due to copyright issues. Hasbro had a set of restrictions that went above and beyond what the T Rating restricted.

Hasbro wanted it to be more family friendly, so alot of the evil stuff (evil dialogue options, brothel and some quests in Nulb, probably some stuff in the Temple) got cut.

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

Another thing I want to know is how to identify potions and scrolls without casting identify.

Try casting read magic for scrolls (just like in PnP); if you have the Circle of Eight patch this works for both potions and scrolls.

 

[Li Shenron]

No, it wasn't due to copyright issues. Hasbro had a set of restrictions that went above and beyond what the T Rating restricted.

Hasbro wanted it to be more family friendly, so alot of the evil stuff (evil dialogue options, brothel and some quests in Nulb, probably some stuff in the Temple) got cut.

I see... quite interesting, I thought other games have been actually trying to increase that aspect to be more attractive to young customers

 

[TimSmith]

I thought at 3rd level the highest a cross class skill could be was 2
Ken

AFAIK it should be 3 (4 skill points at lvl 1 and 1 each for 2nd and 3rd levels=6. Cross class is halved, so 3 points methinks).

Isn't there supposed to be an official patch out today?

 

[Henry]

Keep in mind that when ToEE was being created, it was written with 3.0 rules; they changed it to 3.5 mostly, but left a few things the same (Weapon Finesse, etc.)

I'll merge this thread and the other ToEE thread, since they're so close to topic.

 

[Bass Puppet]

I just checked out the atari website for the patch, so far nothing yet.

http://www.atarisupport.com/newfaq/...entalevil.php?browser=1&pageDisplay=DOWNLOADS

But the link above should be the place to get it. I also checked out Greyhawkgame.com for a patch too, still nothing. (http://www.greyhawkgame.com/downloads.php)

If they don't have the patch by next week, I'm downloading the Cirlce of Eights'.