Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles Episode #1

[Banshee16]

That rule got shattered in T2 and T3 already. T-1000 and T-X were completely inorganic, but somehow managed to travel through time anyway.

Besides, it was a stupid concept to begin with - the idea of being able to fool the laws of physics governing time travel by covering a machine in living tissue makes about as much sense as being able to fool gravity by dressing like a bird and flapping your arms.

The easiest way for them to resolve it was for the rebels to simply say that they're trying to minimize their impact on the past by not bringing future technology into the past.....which is kind of why Skynet happened in the first place.

If they just said that they *can* bring inorganic material back, but they just want to avoid doing so, for fear of accidentally making a bad situation worse. Skynet and the Terminators just wouldn't care.

Banshee

 

[mmu1]

I thought they explained ... at leaast i remember they did in 2, that the t-1000 had enough organic matererial to time travel and that his mechanics for shapeshanging had organic components.

Still you're right, time travel's laws say only life can travel back... hope you don't have fillings.

Depending on where the line gets drawn, you could also arrive missing hair, nails, the very outer layer of skin, tooth enamel, the dead bacteria which make up a large part of the contents of your large intestine...

The only hand-wave I can see (short of them saying it's not a matter of physical law, but that Fate or God or Gaia or The Universal Consciousness made it so) that'd even begin to make sense is if they said that living tissue generates some sort of field, or energy signature, that makes time travel possible, and that's why something mechanical surrounded by enough organic material can travel through time - but I think that's pretty weak... Even if the image of a T-1000 materializing inside a ball of organic slush, then slipping in the resulting puddle and falling on his ass sort sort of cracks me up.

Here's another random thought: If there's a "scientific" reason why the time-travelers always arrive kneeling or curled up fetally it'd probably be that whoever operates the time machine wants to a) Keep the volume of the sphere as low as possible (less energy used, less temporal disruption, or some other likely bit of technobabble) and b) Make sure they don't accidentally cut something off as the targets dematerialize. However, rather than arrive as a metal sphere (which inherently takes up the least possible space for a given volume of material), the T-1000 shows up the same way as everyone else, because it's more dramatic that way.

 

[mmu1]

The easiest way for them to resolve it was for the rebels to simply say that they're trying to minimize their impact on the past by not bringing future technology into the past.....which is kind of why Skynet happened in the first place.

If they just said that they *can* bring inorganic material back, but they just want to avoid doing so, for fear of accidentally making a bad situation worse. Skynet and the Terminators just wouldn't care.

Banshee

Sure, but if that's the case, why would the terminator arrive butt-naked, whining about his "phased-plasma rifle in the 40-watt range".

 

[Rykion]

Apparently I failed my Sarcasm skill check in my post. I thought for sure the pregnant Scully reference would give it away.

Nope, I knew you weren't being serious. I was just using your response as a chance to re-emphasize what I felt was an important idea from the movies being ignored in the TV series.

 

[kinem]

The naked arrival in the original movies could make sense based on 1) saving energy by minimizing the amount of material sent is important, 2) in the future, clothing is very different, and someone arriving with that might attract the enemy's attention.

Sadly the series blew this one. It seemed like they just were trying to closely imitate certain events that happened in the movies, rather than bothering to think.

 

[Angel Tarragon]

I really enjoyed the two part pilot (caught it last night on tape). I hope the show continues beyond Season 1, for the 12 episodes that are planned. In case it isn't, I'm recording it to VHS for archival purposes.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

I liked it so far, and I think I will try to avoid thinking too much on the Time Travel thing and the Technology behind it. Let's face it, this stuff rarely makes sense. The show isn't really trying to technobabble everything (so far), so I don't think we should worry too much about it.

IIRC, Sarah's last scene in the second part was her going to the hospital (oncology department). I guess she wants to find out whether she has cancer already.

 

[Nellisir]

I enjoyed it. Not being intimately familiar with the movie timeline, I assumed the timejump "went around" T3 and split off into its own potentiality.

I have no idea why time travel requires nakedness. The bio-organic field concept is good, except it's gotta be a pretty tight field, since it doesn't even bring your tighty-whities along.

I think something's up with the T-Summer model of tinman. I'm wondering if she's Sarah Conner, post-death (and with some obvious memory issues).

 

[Nellisir]

Also not too keen on injecting superfluous sexuality as done with the T3 terminatrix or the New Buffy-nator.

Heresy! I love me some superfluous sexuality!

 

[Baumi]

The Series is awesome ... 45 Minutes of River Tam kicking some Asses with Supernatural Strenght

... Wait you mean there is a story and other charakters in it too?