"...the ancient empire of the tieflings..." and Sword & Sorcery gaming


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I prefer Vragsin and Cambion to tiefling. I will have to keep that in mind.

To me, "Teufeling" sounds like something you do, and not very gracefully at that. "He was teufeling along the road, when suddenly ..."

But on the OP's point, I'm not getting an S&S vibe from the tiefling info we have do far (the reference to their ancient empire notwithstanding). Maybe it's the over-played horns, but I can't help but just get a "Look at me! I'm awesome!" feel from them. It's too juvenile to fit in a Howard novel.

One race that absolutely gave me that vibe were the Mojh from Arcane Unearthed: serpentile humanoids, physically frail but magically strong, Int bonus, lived for hundreds of years, etc. If you re-wrote the fluff on their physiology to be a race (as opposed to humans who had undergone a magical transformation), they would have been an awesome progenitor race.
 

Cambion definitely sounds more fitting for the quasi-human-looking big-horned species we seem to be getting in 4e. (But I still like tiefling more for the my-granddaddy-boinked-a-succubus kind.)
 

rounser said:
Whatever happened to cambion?
Gloombunny said:
Cambion definitely sounds more fitting for the quasi-human-looking big-horned species we seem to be getting in 4e. (But I still like tiefling more for the my-granddaddy-boinked-a-succubus kind.)
In 3.5, the only reference I could find to Cambions has them statistically identical to half-fiends. So they are only once removed from the fiend level, whereas tieflings are supposed to be more than a couple generations removed, right?

Cambions can be found in Green Ronin's fantastic Aasimar & Tiefling supplement. If anyone has seen them in 3.5 WotC material, please let me know.


Zamkaizer said:
Originally Posted by TarionzCousin
I think "Ay-simm-arr" sounds better than "Ass-simm-marr."
I personally prefer "a-zi-mar."
Now that you mention it, that sounds better to me too.
 

Blair Goatsblood said:
Shoot, I could repaint Drow as unseelie elves.

Well they have confirmed that Drow are now Fey. Judging from the Spined Devil stats they might now be Medium Humanoid (Fey).

This could be just the thing to bring drow out for their passé state.
 

TarionzCousin said:
In 3.5, the only reference I could find to Cambions has them statistically identical to half-fiends. So they are only once removed from the fiend level, whereas tieflings are supposed to be more than a couple generations removed, right?

Cambions can be found in Green Ronin's fantastic Aasimar & Tiefling supplement. If anyone has seen them in 3.5 WotC material, please let me know.


Now that you mention it, that sounds better to me too.
IIRC, the cambion showed up in a recent product with a bagajillion errors, like odd modifiers.
 

Blair Goatsblood said:
"the ancient empire of the tieflings"

Dawnforge was right!

...now, if FFG would only reload Dawnforge for 4e *and* add a "Noonfire" (same world as in DF + 2000 years: high fantasy with human civilization near its peak) and a "Duskglow" (same world as in DF +4000 years: post-apocalyptic fantasy somewhere between Dark Sun and Midnight) setting variant to it, I'd give them all of my money right now!
 


Lord Tirian said:
For a start, look here and scroll down a bit (i.e. way down. Or hit Ctrl+F and seach for "pronounciation").

Cheers, LT.
Ahem. Dictionary, meet Lord Tirian. Lord Tirian, meet dictionary. Lord Tirian, look up etymology please.

Drow is an alternate spelling of trow, which is a Scottish word meaning dark faery type creature, an alternate word for troll. That's etymology, and at least according to some issue of Dragon 6-7 years ago or so, the source of the word.

However, that doesn't really help either, because assuming you can even find drow or trow in a dictionary (hardly a given) it has two pronunciations listed as well.
 

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