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The Deadliest Archer of Them All

Saeviomagy said:
Bigger crits and a bigger crit range IIRC.

Sounds like hunters mercy is the broken spell in this combo though, rather than anything else.

And the cleric combo has persistant spell as the ultra-broken feat.

Ya, that's why when I finished typing my post on the great archer I needed to clean off all the dirt and grime of the power gaming. It was bad. I still get a cold chill from thinking about it. :(
 

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Saeviomagy said:


And the cleric combo has persistant spell as the ultra-broken feat.

Persistent spell broken? A high-level cleric could slam a quickened divine favor on the surprise round and a quickened divine power on the first regular round; that wouldn't change things much. Persistent looks bad on paper, but quicken spell can do almost the same thing. And PS costs two feats in reality.

(Disclaimer: I don't allow Persistent Spell in my games. I just thought it might be worth of noting that isn't quite as bad as people think, when compared to other feats.)
 

Kai Lord said:
With a -7 to attack, a Fighter 10/Peerless Archer 10 hits AC 30 on a natural 2 with a +5 bow and +5 arrows. That's +1 damage over the Cleric's +6 Divine Favor by using a +7 Power Shot, plus anything extra he gets from Sneak Attacks. Adult Red Dragons are AC 29. Both the cleric and the PA miss on a natural 1, and the PA just does more damage.

With his best attack - which is the point you have ignored over and over and over again.

Sure, the PA will do more damage than the cleric with his best attack. But then he fires again, and again, and again, and misses, and misses, and misses, because he dropped his BAB with power attack. Meanwhile, the cleric is hitting with all his attacks, and ends up doing much more damage than the PA.
 

Grog said:


With his best attack - which is the point you have ignored over and over and over again.

Sure, the PA will do more damage than the cleric with his best attack. But then he fires again, and again, and again, and misses, and misses, and misses, because he dropped his BAB with power attack. Meanwhile, the cleric is hitting with all his attacks, and ends up doing much more damage than the PA.

In which case, as I've said over and over and over again, the Peerless Archer simply uses Manyshot and takes a straight -2 to his attack roll and fires four arrows at once.
 

Kai Lord said:


In which case, as I've said over and over and over again, the Peerless Archer simply uses Manyshot and takes a straight -2 to his attack roll and fires four arrows at once.

And how often can he use this ability?
 


Kai Lord said:


Every round of every day, even in anti-magic fields. :cool:

Can you post the specifics of this ability? If there's no limitation on how often it can be used, it sounds broken - especially when used in conjuction with power attack.
 

Grog said:


Can you post the specifics of this ability? If there's no limitation on how often it can be used, it sounds broken - especially when used in conjuction with power attack.

It's a feat. It allows for many arrows to be shot at once as a standard action. It's not broken at all. Gosh hate that term. So over used especially when people don't know the facts. :(
 

Grog said:


Can you post the specifics of this ability? If there's no limitation on how often it can be used, it sounds broken - especially when used in conjuction with power attack.

Its a feat that lets you nock multiple arrows into your bow and fire them as a standard action. The number of arrows is based on your BAB, at +16 you can fire four at once. You roll once and use that roll for all four arrows, with a paltry -2 penalty to the roll.

And there is a limitation. However many arrows you have on hand. :D

Broken? Nope. The cleric can take the feat as well. The Peerless Archer is just better.
 

Crothian said:


It's a feat. It allows for many arrows to be shot at once as a standard action. It's not broken at all. Gosh hate that term. So over used especially when people don't know the facts. :(

I think the first person to say the "b" word in a debate instantly concedes that they lost.
 

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