Nope. It specifically(beating general) only says they retain alignment and personality. You are adding in memory when it does not say it is retained.
Correct. Alignment and personality are the key factors here. A CN angry and violent barbarian PC would attack his "friends." A LG peace loving cleric would not, nor the enemy for that matter.
that changed around 2000 with 3e, I don't think any of the WotC editions have been combat as war
Cats, not house cats. A trained tiger friend attacked Roy of Sigfried and Roy, mauling him terribly. Other animals sometimes do as well.
Most recent findings suggest most tyrannosaurids were indeed pack hunters and took care of their young. Most apes absolutely do.
Literally nobody here has argued in favor of that being true. Personality and alignment are not memory, though. So no, the LG peace loving cleric wouldn't attack anything, but he's going to be limited by the nature(not form) of the beast EXCEPT for alignment and personality, the ONLY two exceptions specifically written. Memory is not a written exception.
Based on the finding of a family that died together. Many birds(modern dinosaurs) stay together until the young are ready to go out on their own and then go their separate ways.
Nope. Group of smaller adult tyrannosaurids found in Argentina.
No. The article I read was about a site in Utah.
Yeah. That's what WotC's customers want, I guess.
The idea that a target is amnesiac is a great tool turn the enemy into a monster and let them ravage their allies another offensive head on the battlefield .... they made the power useful in a different way,ie another not actually a limit.
I already brought that up. It would work great as long as you get someone who's a mean SOB and not someone forced to be there and really doesn't want to hurt people.
That's a plan B, I suppose; but in the interests of keeping it available for opponents (and less-than-decent PCs) to use on their buddies against their will I'd suggest instead that Polymorph still be castable on anyone but carry a severe risk of the poly becoming permanent including loss of memory, personality, etc. at the point where the spell would otherwise end - say, a DC-15 save to return to normal where only your Charisma stat bonus can help you, nothing else. When cast on self, this save might be reduced to DC-5 or even eliminated.
They learn sign language and start calling themselves "Oscar."
Sounds like a rare exception and an interesting story line to me... but in general it enhances the spell for combat purposes not really limits much and actually very handy to simultaneously subtract an attacker from the enemy camp and simultaneously add one for your benefit (if not exactly on your side)
Oh come on. No one is advocating this. The most I said was a saving throw to act for a single round against the party. As in you might take a single attack, make another saving throw, then stop. No one is saying that the PC automatically turns against the party every time and must always try to kill the other PC's. Talky about adversarial interpretations. Sheesh.
I'm not running the spell the way that I do in order to limit things. I'm running it that way because that's the way it is written. The spell causes you to become the beast in all ways EXCEPT alignment and personality. That's it. To add in memory is to house rule in another exception.
I don't know who that was.
It's a 4th level spell. Not god. It's not supposed to be able to do all the different things that people want it to do. As I said upthread, if people want to retain their intelligence, I wouldn't mind it being a 6th level spell and allowing that. It would absolutely make it a MUCH more useful spell, and replace the druid with his wildshape, too!
You are assuming I was talking about your saves to act normal idea? I wasn't? The amnesiac t-Rex acting entirely according to its NATURE (seemed the story others were after they even argued a t-Rex would not understand the idea of friends not just that they could not remember they had them and they would be dangerous to their allies just like some cats will scratch a fiend (or a Tiger kill its handler friend), even if they did remember I suppose. It definitely overlapped with personality at first then it somehow became just amnesia. And was intended to be a limit of the spell and then it was not actually a limit. (and makes it more powerful as a war tool)
Overpowered for the win right? Almost always seems significantly better than banishment with your amnesia effect.
It's always a story. Different personalities will act different ways.
No. I mean, how often are you going to be facing an army where you can let a T-rex loose like that? If it's just a small opposing group, you're might end up hurting your side as well.
