The Future of Star Trek (revealed)...

Umbran said:
Your geek fu is weak, my friend.
You misunderstand me, grasshoppah! I am well aware of after-the-fact explanations of warp scale changes, and even of the Northstar episode (good episode). I was trying to say that discrepencies don't matter, and are in fact part of what made the previous series good.

Enterprise is an okay series, and there are a few episodes that are very good. I just don't really care about Archer et al. They just seem to lack the magic of earlier casts. Would that be aided by not being stuck on UPN, and having a higher budget? Almost certainly. I feel like the show is slipping hard and fast, and the idea presented wasn't going to salvage it for my tastes.

Lastly, I LOVED the Cromwell Cochrane, even though he was NOTHING (visually or in personality) like the one from the original series. I'm just pointing out that trying to "nail down" the past of the series is better fodder for novels, etc. rather than movies and TV.
 

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The_Universe said:
Consistency in Star Trek sucks! Zephram Cochrane appears in an episode of the original series, and he looks nothing like the guy who plays him in First Contact. In the original series, the warp drive goes up beyond 14, but in TNG warp can never exceed Warp Factor 10. There are even inconsistencies from within each series (watch how ferengi change throughout the run of TNG, and then change more in DS9).
Actually, of all the Star Trek TNG films, I only like FIRST CONTACT.

As for the warp speed inconsistencies, it is possible they have reformed and recalculated the scale, which is plausible since warp does not exist within the laws of physic without bending it. And FYI, the final TNG episode have made mentioned of "warp 14" or something above the maximum limit of 10. But it is not set in stone since it it was Q's test of humanity with Picard once again the champion of this uncouthed, pitiful, child-like, savage species.

The only hangup I have with the new franchise's administration is their disregard for continuity.

As for the rumors, until it is concrete, I'll reserve my judgment.
 

Orius said:
Well, since it DID come from AICN, I'll assume that good portion of it was groundless rumors and outright bull. I do not consider AICN to be a trustworthy source of information on the Net.
Not to mention the time of year. A lot of this loony drivel gets peddled leading up to April 1st. Personally, I think it's all a load of crap.
 

Orius said:
Well, since it DID come from AICN, I'll assume that good portion of it was groundless rumors and outright bull. I do not consider AICN to be a trustworthy source of information on the Net.
Could be. But Moriarty isn't exactly your typical scooper. He's actually got many friends in the industry and has some cred to back it up. He's the reason many people (including myself) go to AICN. Do I take it as 100% truth? No. But even if 50% of the report is true than there is something to talk about.

I'd say that somewhere between the press releases from the studios and the rumor mill is the truth. But this source has proven to be trustworthy in the past and he corrects himself if and when more facts come out. It ain't word-o-God but it's something to talk about.

EDIT: Besides, this is a work in progress at the studio. The concepts and plans will most likely morph and change a 100 times before it ever gets released to the public through official channels.
 
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Hand of Evil said:
I have said it before and I will say it again; they have a great story in the founding of the Federation, they just have to use it! Bring in the Klingons as the bad guys, then build the on the myth of why the fed was born, why the prime, why the Klingons were hated so. They have a box, a very good box with a lot of toys inside, they don't need to think outside it.

If that does not work for you, Captain Logs - run and mix different stories from different views of different Captains and ships.

I agree 200% (is thats possible). The birth of the Federation has plenty of space to fill in a great stroy. I hate prequels, but it could have touched on so many classic races-the Andorians the Klingons, etc. The myth is there, so use it.

The Captains Log is a cool idea, too good to ever be used. But having short mini series or story arcs focusing on different crews, ships and races would be great. Give a different perspective to an old formula. I mean the universe is a big place...
 
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Bah...

We don't need to see more Federation/Starfleet, that's all every series has been. I would be more interested in seeing series, seasons or story arcs about other races important episodes, like Kahless, or the Vulcan philosopher that pioneered the way of logic ( I don't remember the name ). Maybe something on the Trill, or whatnot. Even one exploring the history of the Borg.
 

the answer to the whole thing is given by the people at bringbackkirk.com. In fact they have a nine minute movie trailer there that has a much better story idea than anything I read in that stuff at AICN.
 

Kaodi said:
We don't need to see more Federation/Starfleet, that's all every series has been. I would be more interested in seeing series, seasons or story arcs about other races important episodes, like Kahless, or the Vulcan philosopher that pioneered the way of logic ( I don't remember the name ). Maybe something on the Trill, or whatnot. Even one exploring the history of the Borg.

Sorry but as much as the races the humans encounter are interesting Star Trek is about the human race exploration of space (and learning about ourselves in the process). the races are, imo, window dressing for the story to be played out against. Humans, and hence Starfleet, would pretty much have to be intregal to any new series for it to even be Star Trek. All of the ideas you present would make excellent multi-part episodes of a series but none would be able to stand up as a full series.

Personally I think it is just he overabundance of Star Trek we have been fed in the last decade that is the problem. Familiarity breeds contempt and all.
 
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