D&D 5E The Great Avatar Bet: A Longterm Setting Speculation Forum Game

[Henadic Theologian]

I want it to be Planescape, but I don't think it will be. I'm not sure it'll be Dark Sun either, but I'm also not sure what else it could be, so put me down on Team Dark Sun because there's no-one otherwise.

Re: GH/FR, my problem is I think we'll get both as I've noted. If we only get one in the actual YEAR of 2024, though, it'll be Greyhawk, though are we going to count it if it's in the form of adventure, like Dragonlance? If not I guess I have no team there.

This is a good point what happens if we get both in 2024 or if Greyhawk ends up the classic 2023 setting? Call it a tie?

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

Can I join @Aldarc 's team? Nentir Vale for 2023! I got a feeling this is my year.

But my bet, if I had to choose between the 2 teams, would be:
2023: Darksun
2024: FR

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I'm confident Dark Sun will never come to 5e, because of the lack of psionics consensus. I think they had it planned, and then axed it when they couldn't find a way forwards with psionics. I think that instead they will do and original IP (or MtG conversion) with similar themes but no psionics.

Another possibility, as someone else suggested, would be to delay Dark Sun into the new edition (or whatever we're calling it). Putting a psion in just after an edition refresh (as was the original intention with 5E, it seems) is much more likely to work than coming in right at the end of an edition.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Another possibility, as someone else suggested, would be to delay Dark Sun into the new edition (or whatever we're calling it). Putting a psion in just after an edition refresh (as was the original intention with 5E, it seems) is much more likely to work than coming in right at the end of an edition.

I don't think the changes coming in 2024 will be significant enough to overcome the the psion problem, which largely stems from 1st, 2nd and 3rd editions all doing it very differently, and all the psion fans insisting that their version is the one true version.

Personally, I would do Dark Sun by replacing psionics with "mutant powers", but then I would be hammered by the purists throwing their toys at me.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I don't think the changes coming in 2024 will be significant enough to overcome the the psion problem, which largely stems from 1st, 2nd and 3rd editions all doing it very differently, and all the psion fans insisting that their version is the one true version.

I don't think that's a real problem given like, maybe 70-80% of 5E's current playerbase never actually played 2/3/4E, and even of those who did, probably less than 50% of those who did play older editions have a "strong and fixed" opinion on psionics (maybe a lot less than 50% - like it could be 20% and 20% of 20% is not many players).

I think you're confusing an "ENworld problem" with a "D&D problem". We're a bunch of grumpy old grogs, for the most part. Most D&D players are much younger than us, and 5E is their first TT RPG. This was admittedly not true when they first tried to bring psionics, because back then they had what, 10m players? Most of them D&D/PF players. Now we have well over 50m (god knows, it might be past 60m by this point), and they're not at all the same people who sneered and snarked at the Mystic (which was actually not bad) and thus derailed psionics getting into 5E.

So yeah that problem is gone.

That doesn't mean it's certain, or that there might not be some other problem, but that specific problem got swamped out of existence. Especially as on the places where older and newer players meet (like reddit), older players are absolutely NOT respected for their opinions lol. Not even slightly! God help you if you admit to enjoying rolling stats. A clearly intelligent and articulate but utterly fanatical 20-something will explain to you that you're not only wrong, you're bad for D&D, and possibly even actively a bad human being for encouraging rolling stats, and he'll get 500+ upvotes whilst you get maybe just enough upvotes to stay neutral, if you're lucky lol.

(The funny thing is I don't even like rolling stats, but jesus I've seen what happens to people who do... Also that's not a metaphor or analogy - I am literally talking about rolling stats.)

 

[Parmandur]

Team Nentir Vale.

Can I join @Aldarc 's team? Nentir Vale for 2023! I got a feeling this is my year.

But my bet, if I had to choose between the 2 teams, would be:
2023: Darksun
2024: FR

Alright, I'm adding a Team Nentir Vale for 2023.

 

[Parmandur]

This is a good point what happens if we get both in 2024 or if Greyhawk ends up the classic 2023 setting? Call it a tie?

So, that came up for Spelljammer: @ersatzphil bet thst there would be. Spelljammer Adventure book, while I bet there would be a Spelljammer Setting book. Turned out there was both, so we picked each other's current Avatars.

 

[Parmandur]

@Aldarc and @vincegetorix in the interest of good sportsfolklike conduct, would you rather go for a "Wildcard" position?

 

[ersatzphil]

So, that came up for Spelljammer: @ersatzphil bet thst there would be. Spelljammer Adventure book, while I bet there would be a Spelljammer Setting book. Turned out there was both, so we picked each other's current Avatars.

Honestly, when people originally floated the idea of a boxed / slipcase set, I initially pictured the core slipcase of the PHB / MM / DMG or the Tashas / Xanathars / Mordenkainens sets, and thought to myself, "there's no way in 5e they would give that amount of treatment to any setting, barring maybe FR".

Simply didn't occur to me that they'd just cut the page count down; though I will say I'm still pretty surprised they cut it down as aggressively as they did.

 

[Parmandur]

Honestly, when people originally floated the idea of a boxed / slipcase set, I initially pictured the core slipcase of the PHB / MM / DMG or the Tashas / Xanathars / Mordenkainens sets, and thought to myself, "there's no way in 5e they would give that amount of treatment to any setting, barring maybe FR".

Simply didn't occur to me that they'd just cut the page count down; though I will say I'm still pretty surprised they cut it down as aggressively as they did.

Same here.