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5E The Lost Lands: Borderland Provinces

daddystabz

Explorer
I just saw the The Lost Lands: Borderland Provinces setting book by Necromancer Games for the 5e system but there is next to no info about this setting on their page.

Does anyone know anything at all about this setting for 5e? I literally know nothing of it.
 

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MerricB

Eternal Optimist
Well, it's the setting of their adventures like Rappan Athuk and the Slumbering Tsar... :)

I've always viewed it as a dark medieval setting, but I expect some of the Necromancer Games people will be along shortly to explain more.

Cheers!
 

Zardnaar

Legend
I had a look the other day on the website and it seems PDFs are really expensive for the setting. I want to know more about the world and Bards Gate.
 

Mythmere1

First Post
"Dark Medieval" is a good description, it's like Clark Ashton Smith's Averoigne stories. Borderland Provinces is the first specific 5e book for the campaign, and when the Kickstarter launches in a couple of days you'll be able to get a good feel for it, plus a free module is going to be released shortly for 5e as well.

The other supplements, like Bard's Gate, aren't yet specifically done for 5th edition, and the success of Borderlands with 5e fans will probably determine whether we continue to develop 5e campaign resources as opposed to just continuing with adventures and non-campaign resources for 5e. With Forgotten Realms as the "competition" it's not a given that campaign resources are in high demand for 5e. We're testing that with the Borderland Kickstarter.

The full Lost Lands canon is so huge it's hard to really describe in a nutshell -- there are resources like Bard's Gate that are still not converted from d20, and then there are books like Rappan Athuk, Lost City of Barakus, Cyclopean Deeps, Sword of Air, Sulmbering Tsar, and Northlands Saga that exist for Swords & Wizardry and Pathfinder, but not for 5e. Many of those pdfs are expensive because the books are HUGE. Like, page counts well over 500 pages.
 

Mythmere1

First Post
Here's a bit more information:

We're planning on launching the Borderland Provinces Kickstarter for the core region of the Lost Lands campaign on October 15, 2 days from now. Many people have asked about pricing: the answer may be a very nice surprise:

(1) The Basic Campaign Price is $12
Yes, you did read that right. You can start a Borderland Provinces campaign on a $12 budget if your goal is just to have basic information about what's around Rappan Athuk and the other major locations. By getting the pdf Player Guide and Gazeteer, which comes with a pdf of the poster map, you're all set for that type of bare-bones campaign if you're a DIY game master who doesn't plan on using encounter tables, secret GM information, lairs, etc. The Player Gazeteer gives basic descriptions of the map locations, enough to work with if you're a build-it-yourself Game Master. And since the campaign also comes with a free adventure, Rogues in Remballo, you have a pretty complete set of resources to work with.

(2) The "Core" Campaign Hardcover + Map + PDF is $35
A library-quality hardcover of the GM campaign book is only $35 plus shipping, and it comes with the poster map of the region (and free PDFs). This contains all the information we mentioned that's not in the Player Gazeteer. Also available just in pdf, of course.

(3) Additional Resources (make-your-own "resource kit")
An extensive pick-and-choose set of additional resources is where the Kickstarter gets fun, and where you can assemble whatever additional elements you want to supplement your core book, creating an extended "kit" tailored to the way you run your games. The main one is a hardcover book of seven brand-new, full-length adventures, called "Adventures in the Borderland Provinces," which gives you an instant starting point for general campaigning. Plus, there's the above-mentioned Player Gazeteer, a Player Guide, a book we call the "Journey Generator," and lots more. None of these are necessary for play, but all are excellent supplemental resources to add.

Official announcement will be some time on October 15, as soon as Kickstarter gives us the link.

Looking forward to seeing you in the Borderland Provinces!
Matt
 

Charles Wright

First Post
Also - Greg A. Vaughan has made some very extensive posts and teasers about the Lost Lands Campaign setting in our "general" forums.
 

The main one is a hardcover book of seven brand-new, full-length adventures, called "Adventures in the Borderland Provinces," which gives you an instant starting point for general campaigning.
I hear the lead designer on that book visits EN World from time to time, if people have any questions for him. ;)
 


Like: Are you the only designer writing adventures for the book? :)
Nope! I supervised everything, and I wrote one of the adventures, but each adventure was written by a different contributor. I wanted a variety of styles and voices, to showcase the different possibilities of the Borderlands as an adventure setting. Other authors are Scott Fitzgerald Gray, Eytan Bernstein, Anthony Pryor, CA Suleiman, Rhiannon Louve, and Gwendolyn Kestrel.
 

MerricB

Eternal Optimist
Nope! I supervised everything, and I wrote one of the adventures, but each adventure was written by a different contributor. I wanted a variety of styles and voices, to showcase the different possibilities of the Borderlands as an adventure setting. Other authors are Scott Fitzgerald Gray, Eytan Bernstein, Anthony Pryor, CA Suleiman, Rhiannon Louve, and Gwendolyn Kestrel.
You have no idea how happy the inclusion of Scott's name on that list makes me. :)

Cheers!
 

LapBandit

First Post
Do you provide a section for integrating your borderlands into the Forgottem Realms? There are SO many places that would qualify as Borderlands that I'd likely incorporate it if you gave me a place to hook or shoehorn it in.
 

Mythmere1

First Post
Do you provide a section for integrating your borderlands into the Forgottem Realms? There are SO many places that would qualify as Borderlands that I'd likely incorporate it if you gave me a place to hook or shoehorn it in.
Since WotC doesn't have a license for third-party publishers, we're under the rules of the OGL, which don't allow us to publish anything that interacts with someone else's trademarks (like "Forgotten Realms" specifically). So no, sadly, we can't offer any guidance about how to integrate the areas.
 


Matthan

Explorer
I'm trying to sort through this kickstarter. Has anyone found any information on what rules content is contained in the campaign guide? Are there new monsters, spells, or classes (or new content in general)? Or does it just mean that the various NPCs are statted in the corresponding system?

Obviously, the adventure book makes a difference in systems. I just want to know what rules content is going to be included in the campaign guide.
 

Mythmere1

First Post
I'm trying to sort through this kickstarter. Has anyone found any information on what rules content is contained in the campaign guide? Are there new monsters, spells, or classes (or new content in general)? Or does it just mean that the various NPCs are statted in the corresponding system?

Obviously, the adventure book makes a difference in systems. I just want to know what rules content is going to be included in the campaign guide.
The campaign guide contains a couple of new monsters, but no "new rules" for any of the 3 systems. There are a number of lairs in the book, so the different systems for resolving skill-like tasks are adapted to take advantage of a specific system. And of course all the NPCs and monsters in the various encounters are statted for the particular system and adjusted to the varying risk levels they represent.

Our 5e conversion-artist, James, is actually writing up an update for the Kickstarter, discussing the theory and practice of conversion, how to take advantage of the different ways that systems affect different situations, and why he did what he did during the course of developing Borderlands 5e. The base document was written in the general language of original D&D, then broken out into the 3 systems we work with. The step from OD&D into other systems required all three converters to consider different ways to do that "step," so the specifics of almost everything were designed with a specific system in mind. It's not a book that was written in one system and then "converted" with formulas -- each book reflects fundamental design decisions made to build on the strengths and methods of the specific system. What we're calling "conversion" is actually much closer to "design."
 

Charles Wright

First Post
The bulk of the campaign book are descriptions of the Provinces by chapter. Listing the major city, history, adventure hooks, NPCs, and so forth — Campaign Details.

The campaign guide will also include the adventure "Rogues in Remballo", which will be going out free to backers tomorrow (Saturday Oct. 16). Don't worry, though, we will be linking the free module to the general public from our KS page for everyone else the next day.

No new spells, classes, or archetypes. This book really focuses on the lands that have just been mentioned in our other products in the area (Chiefly Rappan Athuk, The Lost City of Barakus, and Sundered Kingdoms).

What it ISN'T is just a list of NPC stats. It's a sandbox campaign setting that you can build off of, use with our other Lost Lands products, or outright steal content from for your home game!
 


Mythmere1

First Post
For those interested in new monsters, though, there are several of those in the adventure book. :)
YES! And we've really been stinting the Adventure Book on the publicity, frankly. We will remedy that once the free module clears the gate, because the adventures are true works of art.
 

Matthan

Explorer
Ok, here's where I'm at. I'm a 5E player. I have never read nor played anything from the Lost Lands or Necromancer/Frog God. All the material that this setting references are in systems that I don't use. I want to back this though because so many folks on this forum have spoken so highly of the material from the publisher. I need something to sell me. What sets this apart from other settings? What's the hook that will make me love reading it and want to play in it?
 

Charles Wright

First Post
It's true, it does reference that material, but the other material isn't essential to using the Borderland Provinces as campaign setting material. It gives you lands with a rich history to use as your own and stands on its own as a campaign setting because it acts as a core to tie the pillars of the older material together.

There are a few things that I would love to tell you about but are going to be revealed during the Kickstarter. We've got a free module for the setting coming out over the weekend, if you check our update section a the Kickstarter there are some reviews of the module (Rogues in Remballo).

Let's not forget 25 to 30 pages of expanded "Quick Reference" encounter tables to be found in the index. Something that I personally find to be worth their weight in gold.

As an end note, I would like to say that this is the first campaign setting product that we're offering for 5E, the book wasn't designed under the assumption that you have any of the other material because it simply isn't available for 5E players yet. We are testing the waters to see if what we have to offer as a campaign setting is something that the 5E players want. We know that you like our adventures (The Quests of Doom series) and we're hoping that you will like our sandbox campaign style as well!
 

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