Micah Sweet
Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
Who's "we" here? Because it certainly isn't everybody, no matter what you imply.It is the same.. and we don't need that either.
Who's "we" here? Because it certainly isn't everybody, no matter what you imply.It is the same.. and we don't need that either.
If you can't at least try to define something, then you can't really discuss it, not coherently anyway.It seems like you think there are objective categories of fantasy elements here.
There aren't.
It's a seriously good thing we are not, nor have never been dealing with IRL humans, but humans in a fantasy context where we don't have to even pretend to care how it works in real life.Well, we do need to transcend human limits. Sorry, but we do. Humans don't do so well when hit by objects the size of trees, caught in flames hot enough melt steel, blasted by millions of volts of electricity, or any number of other things that happen to PCs on a regular basis.
And frankly, if I have a BBEG who can legitimately threaten to cause serious, personal harm to the planet by his sheer personal power... I don't want Farmer Joe's shotgun to be enough to kill him. And no matter how well trained an IRL human is with a sword, a shotgun blast is always going to be deadlier.
There isn't any truth in establishing a particular hierarchy between magic and mundane..Because I prefer truth, honestly, and because I see the players of the game and the setting of the game as separate things. From the players perspective, things Earth humans can't do are supernatural or magical. Denying that because.. you don't like labels? Just seems silly to me.
Human limits are not a necessary concept in a fantasy setting, or at least the real world versions of them aren't.Well, we do need to transcend human limits. Sorry, but we do. Humans don't do so well when hit by objects the size of trees, caught in flames hot enough melt steel, blasted by millions of volts of electricity, or any number of other things that happen to PCs on a regular basis.
And frankly, if I have a BBEG who can legitimately threaten to cause serious, personal harm to the planet by his sheer personal power... I don't want Farmer Joe's shotgun to be enough to kill him. And no matter how well trained an IRL human is with a sword, a shotgun blast is always going to be deadlier.
I have no idea what you intend to mean here?A game isn't a story. It doesn't follow story logic unless everyone agrees it does.
I certainly can agree that there are people who want it. I stand by that no one needs it.Who's "we" here? Because it certainly isn't everybody, no matter what you imply.
Writing up and defining a singular structure for the fantasy elements DMs can choose to incorporate in their worlds and defining reasons (natural or supernatural) that they function the way that they do for everyone is..If you can't at least try to define something, then you can't really discuss it, not coherently anyway.