The movie indrusy is racist aginst dwarves. (rant/ humor)


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ssampier said:
I find that so strange. If table RPGs are any indication players always want to the play weird and evil races, "Human phhhftt! I want to be a CE half elf/half dragon/half fiend/half drow assassin/psion/blackguard."

PnP gamers don't have to look at the back of some scaly, clawed, bat-winged monster for hundreds of hours either.
 

Scribe Ineti said:
Given that both LOTR and Narnia were based on books, and D&D was loosely based on both of them and a whole bunch of other books, wouldn't the better question be why is the BOOK industry racist against dwarves? ;)

Nonsense. PJ butchered Gimli in the movie because of his elf fanboyism. He was not the bumbling fool in the book, nor was Legolas a superelf.
 

Chain Lightning said:
I've played a lot of fantasy mmporpg games with my group of friends. Most of which have dwarves (or dwarfs) in them. Its interesting to me, that a few times (from friends that don't regularly read fantasy novels) I hear they can't imagine why someone would pick a dwarf for their character.

I think this goes back to the over-all common tastes that have been bred in our culture of what is cool and what isn't. Or at least in Hollywood. Being short, over weight and broad isn't considered "cool" so why would it be portrayed as so? Thus, the abundance of dwarves regulated to comedy relief. Same goes for any minority considered "uncool" I think.

Even though I'm sure I'll seem superficial for saying this, but there are a lot of unsaid truths about most of us. No one wants to be ugly .... that part is true. Thus, the journey we want to take when we go for escapism, is a journey with an idealized character. Someone tall handsome, beautiful .... Not ugly. Or at least that's what Hollywood's first thought is -- But for those characters in both real life and in stories that aren't the archetypical handsome/beautiful icon , there are so many that have not let this be any handicap of any kind and have gone on to do great things. Why cannot dwarves (on the big screen) be brought into the same group of characters?

Strangely enough the first character I ever played was a Dwarven fighter circa 1980.

I have always been partial to the gruff, fortright & capable nature of the stout warriors.

Perhaps it's because I've always been broader of chest and shoulder than most of my peers (when Darksun came out I was accused of someone coercing TSR into turning me into an actual D&D race...the Mul lol) and can identify with the emotionally stolid & physicall solid nature of the stereotypical Khazad.
 
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Nonsense. PJ butchered Gimli in the movie because of his elf fanboyism.

Or, y'know, becasue of cinematic balance. Hollywood beleives that for movies to be sucessful they need comic relief and cool-audience-identification-people.

Why are they scared of dwarves?

To paraphrase Pratchett, anyone who's teeth are at scrotum level has a persuasive point.
 

Orius said:
Nonsense. PJ butchered Gimli in the movie because of his elf fanboyism. He was not the bumbling fool in the book, nor was Legolas a superelf.
Not only that, but Peter Jackson was such an elf fanboy that he allowed himself to be killed by an elf in the extended edition of RotK.

Plus, there's the whole "Elf beating a dwarf in a drinking contest" scene. :D
 

Endur said:
It was the movie LOTR that made Gimli comedy relief and Legolas a Superhero.

In the book, Gimli and Legolas are equally heroic. And possibly, Gimli outshines Legolas in the book.

The whole "Gimli as comic relief" is my biggest gripe about these fantastic films.
 

Orius said:
Nonsense. PJ butchered Gimli in the movie because of his elf fanboyism. He was not the bumbling fool in the book, nor was Legolas a superelf.
Isn't Pippin the Hobbit the bumbling fool? He's the doof that pretty much signaled every Moria orcs their position.

Then again, that would explain why the archetypal dwarves have no sense of humor. Everybody keep picking on them ... <voice brokes> and they're very sensitive.

:p
 


I don't know. I much preferred the movie Gimli to the book Gimli.

I didn't perceive him as a bumbling fool. Just funny.

Gimli and Legolas were just kinda there, in the books.
 

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