The movie indrusy is racist aginst dwarves. (rant/ humor)

[Ranger REG]

I don't know. I much preferred the movie Gimli to the book Gimli.

I didn't perceive him as a bumbling fool. Just funny.

Gimli and Legolas were just kinda there, in the books.

My gripe is they make Legolas too good.

 

[iwatt]

My gripe is they make Legolas too good.

Exactly. Based on the movies, Legolas really could have walked into Mordor single-handedly.

Actually, the only points that stuck in my craw were in the last two movies:

1) Shield surfing.

2) The whole Oliphant (sp?) slaying.

3) And this is the big one: No sissy elf is ever going to outdrink a Dwarf. With a net +4 racial difference in FORT saves against poison?.....

4) Gimli getting tired while chasing the hobbit-knappers. (clearly not the case as written by Tolkien himself).

Gimli as comic relief didn't bother me too much except when it detracted from his "dwarf-bad-assness".

 

[Ranger REG]

Exactly. Based on the movies, Legolas really could have walked into Mordor single-handedly.

Actually, the only points that stuck in my craw were in the last two movies:

1) Shield surfing.

2) The whole Oliphant (sp?) slaying.

3) And this is the big one: No sissy elf is ever going to outdrink a Dwarf. With a net +4 racial difference in FORT saves against poison?.....

4) Gimli getting tired while chasing the hobbit-knappers. (clearly not the case as written by Tolkien himself).

Gimli as comic relief didn't bother me too much except when it detracted from his "dwarf-bad-assness".

Actually, #2 above is pretty over-the-top.

I'm okay with the rest, including the drinking game. I'm not an elf, but I play one in RPGs.

 

[iwatt]

Actually, #2 above is pretty over-the-top.

Yeah. That one was so far over the top that it kinda of made me go back and realize how uber-kewl-sweet Legolas was. I found him capable in FOTR, went up to super in TTT, and just over the top in ROTK. :\

I'm okay with the rest, including the drinking game.

Never

This was the feather that broke the camel's back in my case.

Dwarves drink manly Dwarven Spirits.

Elves drink sissy Elven Wine.

The superior training/drinking program of dwarves is what leads to the Con and fort save bonus.

I'm not a dwarf, but I play one in RPGs.

 

[Ranger REG]

Never

This was the feather that broke the camel's back in my case.

Dwarves drink manly Dwarven Spirits.

Elves drink sissy Elven Wine.

The superior training/drinking program of dwarves is what leads to the Con and fort save bonus.

I'm not a dwarf, but I play one in RPGs.

Well, they can drink poison, but they can't handle Rohan Brew.

 

[Squire James]

Both Legolas and Gimli were little more than storytellers in the books, so some action-oriented improvements are in order. However, I think WAY too many of the "kills" were made by Legolas in the movie, with people like Aragorn and Boromir around and all! I sometimes wondered if they were going to contrive some method of Legolas bailing out Gandalf by shooting the Balrog a couple hundred times...

Oddly enough, the Nazgul mount that represented Legolas' only major kill in the books didn't happen in the movie at all (though Faramir made what I considered a similar shot in a totally different context).

 

[shilsen]

4) Gimli getting tired while chasing the hobbit-knappers. (clearly not the case as written by Tolkien himself).

That one is actually in the book. I'm going off memory here, but I believe Gimli claims to feel a weariness that he should not feel and Aragorn says that he thinks Saruman's will is slowing them down and making their foes move faster. Legolas is the one who's unaffected and doesn't wish to stop, but Aragorn decides that they will and Legolas spends the night standing on watch while Gimli and Aragorn sleep.