The new Mind Flayers are here!

I must say that Felon really hit the nail on the head with his post. I can't help but shake my head when I see how uptight some people get over a little cheesecake. C'mon, people! Cheesecake has always been a part of RPG artwork. Just enjoy it like it's meant to be enjoyed. :D
 

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daTim said:
I like and dislike the cover. The illithids look really cool but I could really do without the half naked chick, mostly because it only fuels the current stigmas about males playing rpg's. Also, she seems unnecessarly hot for a slave, she even has lipstick and make up on, as well as a perfect body. If it had been muscley man with his bits almost showing im sure plenty of people around here would get shivers, but dont even think twice about half naked chicks.

I agree with this - since Illithids have no sexual interest in humans AFAIK, they have no reason to want them to look good. I suppose you could argue she's a recently captured adventurer from the surface - hence the lipstick & clothing...
I remember I was pretty surprised by it whem I saw it in the Elmore vs Lockwood thread, it's a long way from Lockwood's WotC-art! :)
 

Putting aside the cover for just a second, does this book do anything to make mind flayers more interesting & formidable opponents in battle? To my experience, they just levitate up into the air and hope their first mind blast drops anyone and everyone who can shoot them down. With only forty-odd hit points, low AC, and no defensive abilities to speak of, they're fighter food.
 
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Felon - prestige classes of Mind Flayer 'paladins' and assassins are in here, and of course slave races are what were REALLY created for hand-to-hand combat. Flayers look down on those who practice martial prowess normally, with the exceptions of the Paladins of the Violet Line, a "secret society" that is quite public and that protects flayer communities. The membership is secret, but the organization is quite public.
 


HellHound said:
Felon - prestige classes of Mind Flayer 'paladins' and assassins are in here, and of course slave races are what were REALLY created for hand-to-hand combat.

Niceness. Consider yet another copy sold! :)
 
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A large part of it, Felon, is that we were *just * starting to change the perception that RPGs are only played by the sterotypical gamer geek... IE, The Comic Book Store Guy from the Simpsons... The cheesecake art doesn't do anything but re-enforce that viewpoint.
 

i like scantily clad babes. It doesn't sell the cover but it catches my eye, and that's the whole point in doing it. You got a billion other books on the shelf and you see one that's odd, different and interesting and you pick it up. At that point the artist and the marketing dept. did their job. They stopped you from looking at one product and moved you toward picking up theirs. They did their job and it's a good job at that.

Beyond that, the cover means very lil to me. Pretty art is meaningless if there is no substance to the work take a look at some of the other books out there that had great art but no crunchy bits. I'll take a poorly art drawn book with great crunchy bits over a great art but no crunch.


On that note my order is coming in. I want this book so bad. I run night below and my mindflayers need an upgrade!
 

Tsyr said:
we were *just * starting to change the perception that RPGs are only played by the sterotypical gamer geek... IE, The Comic Book Store Guy from the Simpsons... The cheesecake art doesn't do anything but re-enforce that viewpoint.

Because of course, that's what non-gamers tend to think we gamers are like.

Seriously, if a person is close-minded enough that this would make up their mind about us as a whole, they aren't the sort of person I'd want introduced to my favorite hobby. You shouldn't judge books by their covers, after all, and certainly not people by the covers of their books.
 

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