The Orc and the Pie: Dragon Magazine #325

[pennywiz]

Who says there's no "Me" in "Monte"? :\

 

[Glyfair]

But, Monte said the pie tastes good- not rat-like! Do I get a no-prize?

Actually, there was a "web enhancement" of some sort posted with a random table to determine what type of pie there was. One of the options was "rat pie."

 

[devilbat]

Let me add another "me too" to the congratulatory butt slaps being handed out to Tony. I enjoy the Zogonia strips mucho grande.

Who says there's no "Me" in "Monte"?

No kidding! God Monte, relax! The gaming community is relatively small enough that most gamers will recognize the homage to Orc and Pie. I would think that he would be honored, rather then "miffed".

Call Inside Edition, maybe there will be an upcoming "Gaming celebrity boxing" episode, where Monte can air out all his pent up, non recognized aggression.

P.S. Before anyone jumps to Monte's defense, let it be known that I like his stuff, and find him a very pleasant individual, outside the ring.

 

[RangerWickett]

Portable Hole Full of Beer, the free pdf that won the best free product ENnie in 2002, includes an adventure called "Return to the Orc and the Pastry."

Y'know, this discussion has made me realize that, in this day and age of the internet, if someone ever does something to mildly irk you (like make a joke based on something you wrote without credit), you can easily let him know. It makes polite discourse so much easier.

 

[beeber]

and in the spirit of polite discourse, i too must thank tony profusely for his strips. they are the first thing i read when "dragon" gets here and are consistenly excellent. i've dm'ed for kev-like characters.

 

[Shemeska]

and in the spirit of polite discourse, i too must thank tony profusely for his strips. they are the first thing i read when "dragon" gets here and are consistenly excellent. i've dm'ed for kev-like characters.

It was one of the few things that made me renew my Dragon subscription the last time it was time to renew it. Eric Mona taking the helm is just a bonus to my reasons to do so this next time.

But Zogonia seriously kicks butt, I really enjoy it each month. Thank you Tony

 

[rounser]

It is one of those "grey areas" in D&D that will be discussed in some 10-page thread somewhere on the Internet, I'm sure.

Oh, we can do better than that; it's discussed in an online article, by an ex-WotC D&D designer no less:
http://www.seankreynolds.com/rpgfiles/rants/undeadseethroughillusions.html
Pertinent quote from said article:

D&D is written for humans. It's written by humans from the perspective of humans, and when comparisons are made, they're made to a baseline human. Things that aren't outright stated in the D&D should be assumed to be human-normal. Huge parts of the game are built around the human as the standard, from armor class (the default AC of 10 is the AC of your average unarmored human) to attack rolls (your average unarmed human with no special training has about a 50% chance -- 10+ on a d20 -- of hitting another average unarmored human with a punch) to saving throws (default DCs are set according to what your average human could resist, dodge, or survive) to skill checks (DC 10 is something your average unskilled guy could succeed at about 50% of the time). With this humanocentric view, it should be clear that if there is no listed answer to a question, the answer almost certainly is the same as asking the question about a human.
How do bugbears poop? Just like a human.
Where do gnomes have body hair? In the same places humans do.
How good is an aboleth's sense of smell? About as good as a human.
How spicy is too spicy to an aasimar? About as much as a human would consider too spicy.

Therefore;
How good does the pie taste to an orc? About as good as it tastes to a human*.

*: Depending on how much rat's in it.

 

[Hanuman]

Tony, you are the only cartoonist to ever make me laugh so hard that I accidently tore the cover off a Dragon mag(sticky frog=nail on wall).It was worth buying a new issue keep up the good work.




Did you know? The housefly hums in the middle octave, key of F

 

[Quickbeam]

Hopefully, everyone here knows about the good old orc&pie.
I'm still waiting for WotC to release a "Return to The Orc and The Pie"
adventure though.

And here I thought I was the only one waiting for the Return adventure !
Thanks for posting Tony...and for sharing your wit and creativity with us each month.

 

[Siobharek]

Hello? IP?

Who says there's no "Me" in "Monte"? :\

I think that if something's fun enough to use in a cartoon, you migt as well give credit right away. Better late than never and props for that, but that "no Me in Monte" is IMHO inane. If somebody quotes you, it stands to reason that they give your name as well.