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The Orville Season Two - Thoughts?

Dannyalcatraz

Moderator
Staff member
Seth has always had a taste for scatology, hence the pre-airdate fears from critics.

But to his credit, I think one of the things that a lot of people gloss over is how normal the general dialogue sounds on this show. Really makes a lot of post-ToS Trek sound stilted.
 
Like they took the edge off the jokes. Now they're reduced to basically just the level of fart jokes the critics initially accused them off!
OTOH, we've had an episode about porn addiction in the holodeck, sex between multiple crew mates (ranging from robot sex to alien sex to the pilot using his rank to pick up chicks), and an episode based entirely on someone needing to pee.

I agree, they're "taking the edge off" this season, but I think they're doing it the other way around. The fart jokes aren't there because they're hilarious, it's to help you not take the show too seriously. A character faking their own death to escape homosexual stigma needs a pinch of humor so that the whole show doesn't turn into Law and Order: SVU ... IN SPACE!
 

CapnZapp

Adventurer
I don't need fart jokes for any reason.

I want officers with flaws. Captains who immediately become schlubs when taken captive. I want a security chief who needs hard liquor to command. And I want to surprise Cmdr Kelly in bed with more aliens!

Serious competent Seth MacFarlane can't compete with Picard or even Janeway, so why even try?
New security chief is also serious and competent.
And Kelly has been only serious and competent this season.

All three are a downgrade compared to S1 in my view. Boooring!

Fart jokes or no fart jokes. (Or even whatever "fart jokes" is shorthand for).

This season is far from bust. Heck, I'm still watching! All I'm saying is, if I squint I see a course correction in exactly the direction I imagine Seth would take if he listened to the premiere critics.

Which is the bummer. I'd much rather he listened to the (much better) audience ratings that coalesced in the weeks and months thereafter! :)
 

Ryujin

Adventurer
I don't need fart jokes for any reason.

I want officers with flaws. Captains who immediately become schlubs when taken captive. I want a security chief who needs hard liquor to command. And I want to surprise Cmdr Kelly in bed with more aliens!

Serious competent Seth MacFarlane can't compete with Picard or even Janeway, so why even try?
New security chief is also serious and competent.
And Kelly has been only serious and competent this season.

All three are a downgrade compared to S1 in my view. Boooring!

Fart jokes or no fart jokes. (Or even whatever "fart jokes" is shorthand for).

This season is far from bust. Heck, I'm still watching! All I'm saying is, if I squint I see a course correction in exactly the direction I imagine Seth would take if he listened to the premiere critics.

Which is the bummer. I'd much rather he listened to the (much better) audience ratings that coalesced in the weeks and months thereafter! :)
You might like a novel that Matt Vancil is in the process of writing; "The Fatal Frontier" ;) His "Federation" is in a post scarcity, but capitalist culture. Imagine who rises to command. No fart jokes so far, but you don't want to be a Redshirt.
 

Legatus_Legionis

< BLAH HA Ha ha >
MSN reported they have already been renewed for season 3. This after only a few season 2 episodes have been aired.

I don't mind if they squeeze off the occasional fart joke and I prefer dry humor.
So are you then a fan of Red Dwarf?

It is more comedy and less serious sci-fi.
 

Zardnaar

Adventurer
MSN reported they have already been renewed for season 3. This after only a few season 2 episodes have been aired.



So are you then a fan of Red Dwarf?

It is more comedy and less serious sci-fi.
Smeg head.

Are Americans that familiar with Red Dwarf?

British Sci fi is so good on a budget big enough to buy a cheeseburger. Special effects budget of Humans is enough to buy two shades of contact lenses so they are splashing out.
 
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cbwjm

I can add a custom title.
Smeg head.

Are Americans that familiar with Red Dwarf?

British Sci fi so good budget of a cheeseburger. Special Effect budget of Humans are two shaded of contact lenses.
Are you okay? Are you having a stroke?
 

Dannyalcatraz

Moderator
Staff member
Smeg head.

Are Americans that familiar with Red Dwarf?

British Sci fi is so good on a budget big enough to buy a cheeseburger. Special effects budget of Humans is enough to buy two shades of contact lenses so they are splashing out.
I live in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area.

Never watched Humans, but am quite familiar with a fair number of other UK genre fiction shows. Besides Doctor Who and Red Dwarf, local PBS, SyFy and other channels have aired Torchwood, Blake’s 7, Apparitions, Sea of Souls, Strange, Survivors, Demons, Life on Mars, Ashes to Ashes, The Fades , Primeval and goodness knows how many others.
 

lowkey13

Exterminate all rational thought
I live in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area.

Never watched Humans, but am quite familiar with a fair number of other UK genre fiction shows. Besides Doctor Who and Red Dwarf, local PBS, SyFy and other channels have aired Torchwood, Blake’s 7, Apparitions, Sea of Souls, Strange, Survivors, Demons, Life on Mars, Ashes to Ashes, The Fades , Primeval and goodness knows how many others.
Blake's 7 is the best.

Also great because the show is total false advertising.

Very little Blake, rarely with 7.

That said, you really have to suspend disbelief when it comes to the ... um ... special effects. "Hey look, in the space armada, it's a toaster!"
 

Ryujin

Adventurer
Smeg head.

Are Americans that familiar with Red Dwarf?

British Sci fi is so good on a budget big enough to buy a cheeseburger. Special effects budget of Humans is enough to buy two shades of contact lenses so they are splashing out.
Some North Americans are familiar with Red Dwarf. A few of us were unfortunate enough to have seen the two separate attempts at Americanizing the series (one of which had Jane Leeves as Holly).
 

Ryujin

Adventurer
Blake's 7 is the best.

Also great because the show is total false advertising.

Very little Blake, rarely with 7.

That said, you really have to suspend disbelief when it comes to the ... um ... special effects. "Hey look, in the space armada, it's a toaster!"
And no Blake at all in the final season, if memory serves.
 

lowkey13

Exterminate all rational thought
And no Blake at all in the final season, if memory serves.
Even better!

Um, hmm.....

How long does it take for spoilers not to be an issue?

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Blake is only there for the first two seasons.

That's right- the title character is arguably one of the lesser characters on the show. I mean, c'mon, we were all Team Avon, right?

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Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
I live in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area.

Never watched Humans, but am quite familiar with a fair number of other UK genre fiction shows. Besides Doctor Who and Red Dwarf, local PBS, SyFy and other channels have aired Torchwood, Blake’s 7, Apparitions, Sea of Souls, Strange, Survivors, Demons, Life on Mars, Ashes to Ashes, The Fades , Primeval and goodness knows how many others.
I've only heard of about half of those...
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
There isn't anywhere to watch Blake's 7, though, which stinks. I have several times been tempted to buy the DVD set.
 

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