The Orville Season Two - Thoughts?

Jester David

Adventurer
So was it a different timeline or the same one? Will next episode be about what happens if Ed and Kelly never get together?
We don’t know....
It is telling that the ship faded to white without seeing what happened when she went back.

So the next episode could be status quo everything normal. Or it could be an alternate timeline where Ed and Kelly never married.
 

Jester David

Adventurer
Okay, the text on the next episode sez:

The Orville Season 2 Episode 14: "The Road Not Taken"

The crew must contend with the disastrous fallout from Kelly's decision. (air date: April 25, 2019)
 

cbwjm

I can add a custom title.
Okay, the text on the next episode sez:

The Orville Season 2 Episode 14: "The Road Not Taken"

The crew must contend with the disastrous fallout from Kelly's decision. (air date: April 25, 2019)
Cool. I like alternate reality episodes.
 

Dannyalcatraz

Moderator
Staff member
...orrrrrr

What if Dr. Aronov emerges from a ball of hot plasma in a modified space shuttle, trying to get Kelly to come back in time with him to correct the timeline?
 

CapnZapp

Hero
That actually wasn't too bad.

Palicki had a tough task but she pulled it off. And time travel shenanigans always offer the opportunity for goofing around (sorely lacking in S2). The Captain acting like a shitheel when he was all like "if you don't take me back I'll bang your younger hotter self".

(Only problem was, I don't think that douchebag move was intentional. I fear the writers honestly believe asking for permission makes it okay. As if people, especially women, in the future are immune to insecurities based on looks and age... :hmm:)

So I'm actually stoked for the next episode! Speculation time!

I realize the alternate timeline is there to suck, so I'll accept that the next episode must end with Kelly deciding to accept that second date with Ed after all. But please pretty please let the explanation not be "Kelly becomes Captain and is bad at it". Or, even worse, that the Union needs Captain Perfect Mercer for its existence!

There can be any number of explanations that doesn't suck, so it's too soon to fear either of those two. For example: Gordon's hot-shot piloting skills are needed, and he's only aboard because Mercer chose him. Or maybe Mercer actually needs to fail during one of the Orville's away missions, and without Kelly's rejection, he's not the Orville's captain during the right time. The possibilities are endless.

I'll take most anything, really. Except McFarlane writing himself into the role of a flawless hero with a blindingly smug smile.
 

Orius

Adventurer
Well it went like this:

[sblock]Without the second date, Ed and Kelly never married, and never got divorced. Without the chain of events that eventually made Ed the captain of the Orville, Isaac never bonded with Claire and her kids, and thus never developed sympathy for humans, and he stayed deactivated on Kaylon. So the Kaylons were able to take everyone by surprise. And it got nasty.

We got to see Alara again for a bit. Didn't see that coming. The detachable flying heads make thins even worse too. I got some more Star Wars vibes from this episode too, like Yaphit greeting them at the hidden base.

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It was a pretty good end to the season.
 

Richards

Adventurer
Agreed, except for the whole "let's hide our starship just inside the event horizon of a black hole" stratagem. I'm willing to accept quantum drives and such in a science fiction show, but to mess up how black holes like that work? Ugh. And to make it worse, when they left the black hole, their chronometers showed that days had passed... ugh again. Time would have passed for the chronometers at the same rate as for everything else on the ship: several minutes. (Unless their chronometers are constantly getting updated by a source in normal space and suddenly "caught up" once they left the event horizon.)

On other nitpicking fronts, I'm pretty sure the bottles of booze would have fallen off the shelves during the Orville's crash to the bottom of the seven-mile-deep oceanic trench. (The fact that they made such a point about the intense pressure under seven miles of ocean made ignoring the pressure from inside a black hole even that much more painful to stomach.) Unless Bortis made cleaning up the bar and restacking the bottles a top priority during his solitary stay.)

But still: an interesting episode, and it was good to see Alara again, even if only briefly. And I wonder how that removable head process works for Kaylons - are they able to maneuver their headless bodies when their heads go flying off to pursue enemies? Do they have sensory apparatus in their torsos equivalent to those in their heads?

Johnathan
 

CapnZapp

Hero
Whelp, that didn't take long. To crush my dreams, that is.

Yes, it was the entirely predictable option that won out: Mercer is officially needed to save the universe.

On the plus side. Alara, yay! Kelly's cleavage. And I didn't mind the Star Wars homage.

On the minus side, the science made my head hurt, repeatedly. There's no need to talk about it because it was so needless. The black hole obviously. Speeding straight through the water's surface. Brrr...

This ep wins the award for Most Predictable Ep. As soon as Rebel-Kelly explained her plan, I knew exactly how the episode would end, and so did most of you too. At least the pace was zippy - they were clearly aware they had a lot of plot to cover, even if we've seen all the parts before. (Felt somewhat like Family Guy's Star Wars homage: you know everything that's going to happen but you watch anyway)

Still - this could have been the show's way of mixing it up for season 3. An opportunity lost.

Kelly should be made Captain. They should allow her to recollect glimpses of the alternative timelines. (A vague recollection of how cleave helps her be in command and be successful would be a nice start!) Mercer should be assigned whatever department that wears red shirts. Alara needs to come back. And so should all the silliness as well: Tharl. Blue Rob Lowe. John as God's gift to women (give him the Troy counsellor job, with Ensign Turco as his secretary). Yaphit deserves the Engineering promotion. And for the love of god, cut down on the universe-saving plots.

We'll see if there's a third season. Otherwise: it has been great having someplace to discuss the show. Thanks.
 

Legatus_Legionis

< BLAH HA Ha ha >
Considering how bad things are in this episode, other than Claire, everyone's hair and clothing and face is all clean, etc.

Costuming/makeup did NOT do its job to reflect how bad things are on the characters.

PLUS:

If the Kalyon's are so superior, why were they so bad marksmanship and tacticians.

As for bad tacticians... why did the rebels leave their base to become living targets? And why was the base not covered from all sides from the Kalyons?

It felt like they rushed to get this strip written/approved/filmed without thinking it through.

Over all, this was one of the poorest outings for the Orville.
 

cbwjm

I can add a custom title.
I thought it was one of the best episodes so far, a lot more action oriented with a lot riding on their success. I also liked the the visual effects. The destroyed moon, the lack of sea life was a nice touch, and I thought it was awesome when the Orville flew again.
 

CapnZapp

Hero
Considering how bad things are in this episode, other than Claire, everyone's hair and clothing and face is all clean, etc.

Costuming/makeup did NOT do its job to reflect how bad things are on the characters.

PLUS:

If the Kalyon's are so superior, why were they so bad marksmanship and tacticians.

As for bad tacticians... why did the rebels leave their base to become living targets? And why was the base not covered from all sides from the Kalyons?

It felt like they rushed to get this strip written/approved/filmed without thinking it through.

Over all, this was one of the poorest outings for the Orville.
The answer to all your questions is spelled "star" and "wars"
 

CapnZapp

Hero
I thought it was one of the best episodes so far, a lot more action oriented with a lot riding on their success. I also liked the the visual effects. The destroyed moon, the lack of sea life was a nice touch, and I thought it was awesome when the Orville flew again.
I see your point. However. Since I was thoroughly convinced where this was headed, it all felt a bit like going through the motions.

I mean, the second I realized McFarland had chosen the most self-indulgent story possible, right when Rebel Kelly explained her plan after the opening action scene, no way he was going to delay that by adding failure to the plot.

So my enjoyment was lessened by the predictability and inevitability of it. Going through the motions, as it were.

Does that mean I disagree about the visuals? Heck no!

But it means my comparison to Family Guy Star Wars wasn't random. It was very much like that: following a plot you already know by heart. Pretty visuals keep you entertained, but you can't keep from wondering how much better it could have been if they had added even a smidgen of suspense, originality and unpredictability.

 

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