The Rod of Seven Parts: Kauai Team OOC

It's no problem on the accounting front; it's my pleasure to be able to help out in someway. So far none of the PCs have shown any interest in the wolf-spiders' remains or bothered to claim ownership of them. Likewise none of them seemed to care about what Maelicent planned to do with them or offered to help him with the grisly task. It'd be somewhat odd if they suddenly did take an interest in the matter. Maelicent will consider the issue of dividing up the profits on the sales if ever the other PCs inquire about it.

PCs crafting stuff on their own usually isn't a great proposition since they keep moving around and adventuring and stuff. Since making armor and weapons requires weeks of dedicated effort it's not usually something that can easily be done by PCs who are on the move. Trying to accomplish it during the few hours a night the PCs are making camp would simply increase the amount of time to accomplish each task; likely fourfold since the PC would be spending only two hours a day on the task instead of eight.

Maelicent does react a bit adversely to the city but I imagine his reaction to the place was much more extreme in his early days here. He probably did little more than sneak around at night, steal food and spy on people for the first few weeks. It was likely a month before he tried speaking with an actual giant-kin. Although he might come off as rather paranoid and secretive, he's actually mellowed out quite a bit in the past few months. The building interiors aren't really all that different from large caves.

The stables with its sturdy ceiling beams, available rope and convenient assortment of buckets and troughs for holding ichor and organs is actually rather ideal for the task at hand. I figure the wooden supports are sufficient considering that the wolf-spiders don't likely weight as much as they might appear to; insects and arachnids don't have the same kind of weighty body density of mammals. Even if these wolf-spiders are otherworldly, it still seems likely that they're much lighter than they seem.

I don't plan on having Maelicent be entirely nocturnal. In this case I'm simply trying to expedite the butchering so as not to retard the party overmuch. Like I said, Maelicent will likely stay up till about 4 or 5 am and then turn in, waking up sometime before noon to resume his efforts. Unfortunately the goblin only has 14 gp left on hand. Maybe he can pay a butcher to rent him the required knives for a few days or simply pay half now and deliver the remainder after the chitin sales are complete. The DC of the check is up to you. Maelicent has a +6 Survival. If he acquires the knives then he'll have a +8. If you allow Maelicent to now acquire evil outsiders as his favored enemy then he'll gain a further +2 on his survival skill to butcher them. That way, with a +10 to the check, Maelicent can simply take 10 to properly butcher the demons. ;)
 

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Absolutely, Maelicent can declare evil outsiders to be his favored enemy. You and I had agreed that Mal could wait to declare his favored enemy, so if want to invoke your right to chose, you may certainly do so. You might do better by declaring chaotic outsiders as his favored enemy, though. The spiders would fit in either camp, but looking at the long haul the latter choice would go a bit farther. Also, the primary example of a demon per the PHB is a chaotic outsider. Devil is listed at the example for an evil outsider. I personally would count a CE demon as either an evil or a chaotic outsider. If you haven't already done so, please edit whatever favored enemy you select into Mal's character sheet. As long as it's outsider (evil) or outsider (chaotic), Mal'll benefit from the +2 to the Survival check. The DC will remain 20.

Had he enough gold to do it, Maelicent could've bought knives, but getting a Teggestian merchant to rent anything not normally for rent to a goblin is pretty difficult. Still, not impossible, so I rolled odds but didn't roll well enough. Sorry, no knives to be rented.

The first Survival check resulted in a roll of 21, so Maelicent will have completed the butchering of the first carcass in 22 hours of work. The second Survival check resulted in a roll of 24, so Maelicent will have completed the butchering of the second carcass in 16 hours. Total time to butcher the two wolf spiders is therefore 38 hours. And, though it does go against the grain of real life somewhat, the gentle repose will help Maelicent if he needs to leave off his butchering in favor of adventuring. It'll take some time for the gentle repose to wear off so that the hide can be tanned in the sun, but at least the innards, meat, oils, and chitin won't rot or be eaten by vermin if Maelicent needs to step out for a while.

Working 10 hours during the first night and going to bed at 5 am, Maelicent then has 28 more hours of work ahead of him.

I should note that I assumed the +2 favored enemy bonus to Survival for the rolls above, so if you don't go with outsider (chaotic) or outsider (evil), be sure to let me know.
 

CanadienneBacon said:
Absolutely, Maelicent can declare evil outsiders to be his favored enemy. You and I had agreed that Mal could wait to declare his favored enemy, so if want to invoke your right to chose, you may certainly do so. You might do better by declaring chaotic outsiders as his favored enemy, though. The spiders would fit in either camp, but looking at the long haul the latter choice would go a bit farther. Also, the primary example of a demon per the PHB is a chaotic outsider. Devil is listed at the example for an evil outsider. I personally would count a CE demon as either an evil or a chaotic outsider. If you haven't already done so, please edit whatever favored enemy you select into Mal's character sheet. As long as it's outsider (evil) or outsider (chaotic), Mal'll benefit from the +2 to the Survival check. The DC will remain 20.

Demons have both Chaotic and Evil subtypes, so by the RAW both favored enemy types apply to them. Favored enemy bonuses for different types do not stack though.

btw and ooc creatures of pure chaos such as most natives from Limbo (like Slaad) would generally be just subtype Chaotic and favored enemy evil will not apply.

For story purposes if you are learning off the spiders their Chaos might outweigh their Evil as far as what you learn from them.
 

Voadam said:
btw and ooc creatures of pure chaos such as most natives from Limbo (like Slaad) would generally be just subtype Chaotic and favored enemy evil will not apply.

This is a huge jip, IMO. I'm not quite sure where in the RAW a slaad wouldn't be covered as a favored enemy for someone who took outsiders (chaotic), but if that's the case per the RAW, I can tell you that in *this* game, that is one rule we'll be ignoring. If it's got outsider and chaotic in its descriptor, it'll fit the bill for a character who took outsider (chaotic) as a favored enemy. Where does it say that, anyway? Now I'm curious. MM 3.5 pg 5 in the boxed text specifically lists slaadi as an example of outsider (chaotic) type.
 


CanadienneBacon said:
This is a huge jip, IMO. I'm not quite sure where in the RAW a slaad wouldn't be covered as a favored enemy for someone who took outsiders (chaotic), but if that's the case per the RAW, I can tell you that in *this* game, that is one rule we'll be ignoring. If it's got outsider and chaotic in its descriptor, it'll fit the bill for a character who took outsider (chaotic) as a favored enemy. Where does it say that, anyway? Now I'm curious. MM 3.5 pg 5 in the boxed text specifically lists slaadi as an example of outsider (chaotic) type.

I think you are misreading my quote. Notice the "subtype Chaotic" versus "favored enemy evil" in the sentence you quoted. :)

I was saying a character such as Voadam with favored enemy [Evil] will not get a bonus against slaad who are [Chaotic] but not [Evil]. If Maelicent took favored enemy [Chaotic] he would get the bonus against the subtype [Chaotic] slaad under the RAW.
 


It does seem a bit odd to take Outsiders (chaotic) rather than Outsiders (evil) as a favored enemy; I guess I'm just used to fighting evil rather than chaos. ;)

Since this campaign does seem to focus on a chaos vs law dichotomy however then I'll defer to your better judgement and take chaos as a favored enemy. Take heed capricious creatures of confusion! :mad:
 



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