D&D General The Worst Part About Leaving D&D...

[Reynard]

...is the much decreased level of engagement for other games. There's no place to enjoy as robust, broad based, active and pugnacious conversation about, say, Savage Worlds. There's no SWADE version of ENWorld.

I know that sounds silly, but it is a real thing. This community and the desire to continue to be a part of it has, in the past, kept me playing D&D when I otherwise would have abandoned it. I suppose it is a symptom of a kind of personality disorder that I feel like I NEED that level of interaction, but here we are.

Anyway, just feelinga little melancholy. Feel free to use this thread to discuss your favorite kind of gnome bard.

(The answer is, of course: none.)

 

[not-so-newguy]

Here, this might cheer you up!

 

[Retreater]

Yeah. I was just talking about this with my wife. Getting on the PF2e Reddit isn't the same as the relationships I've forged on here over 20-ish years. It's really an emotional breakup.
Worse than my first divorce.

 

[DarkCrisis]

Can always try an older edition. I went back to 2E and it’s been great.

Give a Retroclone like Basic Fantasy a shot.

Heck even Pathfinder is still basically D&D

 

[Reynard]

Can always try an older edition. I went back to 2E and it’s been great.

Give a Retroclone like Basic Fantasy a shot.

Heck even Pathfinder is still basically D&D

I feel like maybe you missed the point of my post?

 

[Grendel_Khan]

...is the much decreased level of engagement for other games. There's no place to enjoy as robust, broad based, active and pugnacious conversation about, say, Savage Worlds. There's no SWADE version of ENWorld.

I know that sounds silly, but it is a real thing. This community and the desire to continue to be a part of it has, in the past, kept me playing D&D when I otherwise would have abandoned it. I suppose it is a symptom of a kind of personality disorder that I feel like I NEED that level of interaction, but here we are.

There are some great Discords out there—especially ones associated with podcasts—where folks talk about all kinds of RPGs that aren't D&D. I'm in one where Savage Worlds comes up a whole lot!

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

...is the much decreased level of engagement for other games. There's no place to enjoy as robust, broad based, active and pugnacious conversation about, say, Savage Worlds. There's no SWADE version of ENWorld.

In order-

1. There is exactly one type of good bard. A DEAD ONE.

2. Think of the upside .... less time talking 'bout the game, more time playin' the game!

3. Based on what I've seen, lack of playing D&D, lack of familiarity with D&D, and lack of familiarity with RPGs in general does not, in any way, prohibit you from commenting on enworld.

4. Finally, think of this as a great opportunity to get to the bottom of burning questions that we all need answered ... you know, like What would a 19 Year Old Junior Duchess who has had a 26 Year old Half-Cousin of non-Noble Birth do if Her Three Large Baronies Did Not Provide for Her Husband's Heirs?

 

[Steampunkette]

I've said it, before, I'll say it, again:
Level Up. A5e.
Talk to your table about swapping to a different, new, version of D&D and take that step. You'll still be able to benefit from the big D&D community to a large degree, but it won't exactly -be- D&D, so your conscience can be soothed.

 

[overgeeked]

...is the much decreased level of engagement for other games. There's no place to enjoy as robust, broad based, active and pugnacious conversation about, say, Savage Worlds. There's no SWADE version of ENWorld.

I know that sounds silly, but it is a real thing. This community and the desire to continue to be a part of it has, in the past, kept me playing D&D when I otherwise would have abandoned it. I suppose it is a symptom of a kind of personality disorder that I feel like I NEED that level of interaction, but here we are.

Anyway, just feelinga little melancholy. Feel free to use this thread to discuss your favorite kind of gnome bard.

(The answer is, of course: none.)

Not entirely true. Reddit, Discord, and other forums. There are reddits and discord channels for everything. This forum is almost absurdly dedicated to D&D and only D&D. Other RPG forums exist and they have much bigger not-D&D sections and interaction. One that comes to mind is RPG.net, but there are others.

RPGnet Forums

The Internet's Oldest Tabletop RPG Community!

forum.rpg.net

There’s about 18,000 people on the Savage Worlds reddit.

Savage Worlds RPG • r/savageworlds

The Savage Worlds subreddit is a place for Articles, Advice, Articulations and Atrocities associated with Savage Worlds: the pinnacle of RPG game...

old.reddit.com

There's about 3,200 people on the Unofficial Savage Worlds discord.

Discord - A New Way to Chat with Friends & Communities

Discord is the easiest way to communicate over voice, video, and text. Chat, hang out, and stay close with your friends and communities.

discord.gg

 

[DarkCrisis]

I feel like maybe you missed the point of my post?

I don’t think so. I mainly play 2E but still have lively chats here.

My point was, D&D is D&D. Telling about how you slew a troll in Pathfinder is just as relevant as if slain in 5E

 

[payn]

I do miss how vibrant Paizo boards used to be. They are still ok for PF2 talk, but not much else. Discord and Reddit have eaten their lunch

 

[Jer]

...is the much decreased level of engagement for other games. There's no place to enjoy as robust, broad based, active and pugnacious conversation about, say, Savage Worlds. There's no SWADE version of ENWorld.

This is true. But I also feel like enworld used to have much broader conversations about other games. Not recently, but, like, 15-20 years ago it felt like there was more general ttrpg discussion about non-D&D games. I'm not even sure what killed it or when it disappeared (or if I'm just misremembering the balmy days of my youth...)

 

[Sabathius42]

The one RPG I have always felt had as much of a fandom for has been Shadowrun. It's been pretty successful at getting wider name recognition through novels, video, and board/card games and has a lot of popular online groups to join for discussion.

In some ways I feel like discussion of SR is easier than DnD because there is a singular narrative and expected power band that almost every campaign takes place in.

This is unlike DnD where I might come from a place of running a superheroic anime styled homebrew 5e campaign and I'm arguing with someone who only plays 1e prewritten modules and enjoys being a wizard with 1HP.

 

[Jer]

The one RPG I have always felt had as much of a fandom for has been Shadowrun. It's been pretty successful at getting wider name recognition through novels, video, and board/card games and has a lot of popular online groups to join for discussion.

Way, way back in the day the Star Wars d6 game had a big following. Then WEG went bankrupt and George Lucas started making movies again and it feels like Star Wars RPGs have never been as popular after that one-two punch.

 

[not-so-newguy]

It may just* be a matter of restructuring the Forums. Enworld has done so in the past.

*This is probably a very complex thing to do. I have no idea.

 

[Reynard]

Not entirely true. Reddit, Discord, and other forums. There are reddits and discord channels for everything. This forum is almost absurdly dedicated to D&D and only D&D. Other RPG forums exist and they have much bigger not-D&D sections and interaction. One that comes to mind is RPG.net, but there are others.

RPGnet Forums

The Internet's Oldest Tabletop RPG Community!

forum.rpg.net

There’s about 18,000 people on the Savage Worlds reddit.

Savage Worlds RPG • r/savageworlds

The Savage Worlds subreddit is a place for Articles, Advice, Articulations and Atrocities associated with Savage Worlds: the pinnacle of RPG game...

old.reddit.com

There's about 3,200 people on the Unofficial Savage Worlds discord.

Discord - A New Way to Chat with Friends & Communities

Discord is the easiest way to communicate over voice, video, and text. Chat, hang out, and stay close with your friends and communities.

discord.gg

I left rpg.net a long time ago. And reddit is... good to lurk on and search for information or discussions but not for me.

I don't know how people stand Discord as a "message board."

 

[Reynard]

I've said it, before, I'll say it, again:
Level Up. A5e.
Talk to your table about swapping to a different, new, version of D&D and take that step. You'll still be able to benefit from the big D&D community to a large degree, but it won't exactly -be- D&D, so your conscience can be soothed.

My issue with 5E isn't just the WotC stuff. I'm just tied of and frustrated with it as a version of D&D (for reasons I will not go into here).

 

[Stormonu]

Way, way back in the day the Star Wars d6 game had a big following. Then WEG went bankrupt and George Lucas started making movies again and it feels like Star Wars RPGs have never been as popular after that one-two punch.

Star Wars WEG did a lot of the Lord's work fleshing out Star Wars lore that got swept away with Disney's junk. Yes, there was lot of cruft in the WEG stuff, but what it got replaced by wasn't necessarily any better (Andor & Kenobi, I'm specifically look at you two).

 

[schneeland]

Anyway, just feeling a little melancholy. Feel free to use this thread to discuss your favorite kind of gnome bard.

Apparently Google has a bard now, too, and it caused the share price to drop by 9% (link) - just another piece of evidence that bards are the worst class to have in your party

 

[BrokenTwin]

Trying to use Discord or Reddit for actual discussion feels like a dystopian nightmare. I do enjoy the spirit of this place more than most of the other old-school RPG forums I know of (hence why I stay), but it does make me sad that I don't see the same level of engagement and discussion of other systems here. And you can say "start your own conversations!", but it's not much of a conversation if you're the only one posting in the thread.
But I'm just a lazy lurker, I prefer reading other people's discussions.