D&D (2024) They butchered the warlock in the new packet

[Pauln6]

Perhaps…

Verisimilitude.

 

[Reef]

Verisimilitude.

Simplified!

 

[Remathilis]

No.

Yes.

Maybe?

Perhaps…

Verisimilitude.

Simplified!

Pack it up peeps, debate settled.

 

[Valetudo]

I think it would be real easy to hitch the old warlocks engine on this new warlocks chassis.

 

[Undrave]

Simplified!

Agency?

 

[shadowoflameth]

In 5e mystic arcanum at level 5 would be completely redundant with pact magic.

Yes, it would. It also potentially gives the playtest Warlock access to spells that the 5e Warlock wouldn't have.

 

[Jefe Bergenstein]

Does it, though? You'll actually be able to cast spells more often instead of just spamming Eldritch Blast every round!

Crappy spells. You get fireball at 9th level, as opposed to 5th when the damage is significant. All hybrid casters suffer from using full caster's hand me downs many levels after they were relevant. You're still blasting every round because otherwise you're the chump casting a first level burning hands for 9 damage.

If there were more hybrid spells that were GOOD at the level hybrids got them, it would be different. This warlock is 2 level dip material to pick up fighter DPS, then bounce back to full caster.

 

[mellored]

Crappy spells. You get fireball at 9th level, as opposed to 5th when the damage is significant. All hybrid casters suffer from using full caster's hand me downs many levels after they were relevant. You're still blasting every round because otherwise you're the chump casting a first level burning hands for 9 damage.

Let Hex be at-will and work on spells.

So it will boost the damage of burning hands and the like.

 

[OldSchoolGamerGirl]

If there were more hybrid spells that were GOOD at the level hybrids got them, it would be different. This warlock is 2 level dip material to pick up fighter DPS, then bounce back to full caster.

My fear is with this new "simplified" lists of arcane divine primal, we wont see class specific spells

 

[Jefe Bergenstein]

Let Hex be at-will and work on spells.

So it will boost the damage of burning hands and the like.

Against one target. Burning Hands rises to a lofty 13 damage, save for half, vs 2d10+8.

Why are we having to jump through hoops to get the damage that should just be baked into the class? Sneak Attack just works. The paladin's extra radiant damage just works. No need to fart around casting a spell that balance assumes is always on anyways. Kill Hunter's Mark while we're at it.

Ditch Hex as a damage booster and make it something that actually debuffs the target in a meaningful way outside of grapple/shoves.