Tiers Excerpt (merged)

Derren said:
That rituals are listed in the "money&magic items" section and not in the "progression" part is in my opinion a strong hint for that.

So let me get this right. You are saying that a 1st level wizard with enough money could learn "True Portal" and cast it at any time, assuming he had enough money?
 

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Jack99 said:
So let me get this right. You are saying that a 1st level wizard with enough money could learn "True Portal" and cast it at any time, assuming he had enough money?

So thats what you make out of "maybe with level limit" from my first post?
 

vagabundo said:
That was a woman!?!

<looks closer> oh yeah metal boobies....
I think it's a dwarf woman. But now that you mention it, it's very nice that female warriors look like warriors and not pin-up models. Nothing wrong with those, but in this day and age of internet* I don't think it's too much to ask to keep the softcore and RPG illustrations apart.

*That is, frustrated gentlemen can get what they want through internet instead of D&D illustrations.
 

After a rather slow start, this article turned interesting. I found the blurbs on the tiers to be less than inspiring. (Yay, molest furry woodland creatures in the heroic tier. I always feel sorry for wolves).

But the crunch at the end made it worth it. Glad there aren't an absurd number of encounter powers- game balance would have been an issue if you quickly reached a point where per encounter powers = expected rounds of combat. You'd never need at will powers.

I want to see more on the recharge/regain mechanics hinted at however. Those strike me as a major power boost in the upper levels..

I am a little surprised that the class model is based on the sorcerer (limited powers known, swap out as you level), since he's still a johnny-come-lately across the history of the game. I think it works, however, since everyone is more or less on this model.

I don't think I like the hint that paragon paths are required, though.

Items for new, high level characters seem to work, though I wonder how that compares to what you're expected to gain as you level.
 

Derren said:
So thats what you make out of "maybe with level limit" from my first post?

Okay, you have a point, forgot about that parenthesis) let me re-phrase.

So let me get this right. You are saying that a 1st level cleric with enough money could learn "Raise Dead" and cast it at any time, assuming he had enough money?

1st level character is heroic tier, and so does Raise Dead seem to be (let's just assume for this argument's sake). If you add more constrained level limits, wouldn't that sort of be like, I don't know, a progression?
 

Voss said:
I am a little surprised that the class model is based on the sorcerer (limited powers known, swap out as you level), since he's still a johnny-come-lately across the history of the game. I think it works, however, since everyone is more or less on this model.

Not completely though, because the wizard still picks some spells from his spell book selection that is larger than the amount he can cast per day...
 

I think rituals will come as feats or class selections.

I like the way powers are done. I had hoped for more powers known, but I'll have to see how it plays out. The list looks similar to, say, a psion, and I do love me some psion.

The power list was also confusing. However, it seems that powers 'upgrade' every 4 levels, that's why they are written that way. Weird, but I can roll with it.

Hit points are just strange. Little bit more of a calculation than I had expected.
 

With progression I mean things like class specific rituals and a limited amount of rituals known per level and from the wording of the excerpt this doesn't seems to be the case.
Another possibility is that this article only means that one can pay others to perform rituals and that this is no reference to player casted rituals at all.
 

neceros said:
The power list was also confusing. However, it seems that powers 'upgrade' every 4 levels, that's why they are written that way. Weird, but I can roll with it.

Every 4/6/4/6/etc. levels actually, the way I read it...
 

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