D&D 4E Tropes of the Nentir Vale

[Parmandur]

Nod. It really reminds me of the glimpses we had of the settings - Greyhawk & Blackmoor, mostly - in early D&D. The difference being that, this time around, there was nothing there beyond the glimpses.

Heck, it is how I experienced "Greyhawk" in 3.x...

 

[S'mon]

I think he's succeeded in making his fan fiction Canon: beyond that, he has suceeded in making "Make My Fan-Fiction Canon" basically his job description.

Well I ignored the bits of setting fluff I didn't like ("Asmodeus killed God!" "Hell is in the sky!") back in 4e-time, I can certainly ignore it now!

 

[Parmandur]

Well I ignored the bits of setting fluff I didn't like ("Asmodeus killed God!" "Hell is in the sky!") back in 4e-time, I can certainly ignore it now!

I mean, what is Canon other than the Fan-Fiction of the particular people working in Redmond today?

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Why not? There is support for it in the game's rules and history.

Because it’s weird and adds nothing to the game, solves no problems, and ultimately accomplished nothing?

 

[Parmandur]

Because it’s weird and adds nothing to the game, solves no problems, and ultimately accomplished nothing?

Nothing weird has any place in D&D, surely.

Well, I don't know the full reasoning behind it, as it is background lore they haven't delved into explicitly yet. Therefore, I would not be confident in agreeing that it solves no problems or accomplishes nothing, given that I don't know what problems and goals they might have behind the curtain.

It is what is, as far as what's going on in D&D lore now. Use or do not use, at your leisure.

 

[sunrisekid]

Question from the clueless: what exactly is OP linking to? Personal campaign? I'm not sure what the point of the post is.

At any rate, I love Nentir. Ran my 4E games there and continued when 5E came out. Still playing there, roughly converting official modules to Nentir locations. One of my players started DM'ing for the first time, having selected another continent from the world map.

As for cosmology, that has always been at the bottom of my to-do list for any campaign. The players never seemed interested in whatever the gods are (ascended mortals, true gods, whatever). I've never really understood why people even debate cosmology in D&D haha. But to each their own of course.

 

[S'mon]

Question from the clueless: what exactly is OP linking to? Personal campaign?

An obscure and little known website called "TV Tropes". Very few people go there. I believe it has a few entries on tropes in genre fiction.

 

[Garthanos]

S'mon is going to gain the insidious sarcasm award for today.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Nothing weird has any place in D&D, surely.

Well, I don't know the full reasoning behind it, as it is background lore they haven't delved into explicitly yet. Therefore, I would not be confident in agreeing that it solves no problems or accomplishes nothing, given that I don't know what problems and goals they might have behind the curtain.

It is what is, as far as what's going on in D&D lore now. Use or do not use, at your leisure.

It isn’t anything, until or unless it’s published, first of all.

It also directly contradicts published 5e lore.

And changes the fundamental nature of the cosmology for literally no reason other than Mearls likes the idea so much he can’t let go of it.

As much as the lore in Mordy’s Fome of Toes was largely garbage, it actually is what it is, because it’s official published lore for this ed.

Mearls needs to keep his off brand campaign ideas that he didn’t get to keep playing with on stream to himself.

 

[Parmandur]

It isn’t anything, until or unless it’s published, first of all.

It also directly contradicts published 5e lore.

And changes the fundamental nature of the cosmology for literally no reason other than Mearls likes the idea so much he can’t let go of it.

As much as the lore in Mordy’s Fome of Toes was largely garbage, it actually is what it is, because it’s official published lore for this ed.

Mearls needs to keep his off brand campaign ideas that he didn’t get to keep playing with on stream to himself.

MToF does seem to imply what Mearls alluded to there, with the origins of Devils and Demons as explained there.

(it's not big skin off my nose either way, as all D&D metaphysics are absurd no matter how you cut it)