True 20 Experts book

Treebore

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I am wanting to order True 20 Revised from Amazon and I am thinking of adding "EXperts" to qualify for free shipping. Can someone link some good reviews, or a write up, or just give me your opinion as to whether its worth getting?

Thanks.
 

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The Expert's Handbook is probably the weakest of the printed supplements for True20. It's got a lot of useful options and ideas but the implementation of those ideas is clunky and a bit at odds with the baseline of the system.
You can see a number of reviews (and some responses by the author) in this True20 thread on Green Ronin's True20 forum.

I'd actually recommend the bestiary, if you're a Narrator (GM). Even if you don't use the creature entries, the book is a useful resource for traits, concepts, conversion guidelines, and examples of powerful creatures.
Just stay away from the equipment list in the appendix. ;)

The Adept's Handbook is generally a better book, though obviously it has a different focus.

Worlds of Adventure is very good, as far as options go. The settings in it are quite interesting, have a host of options, and can all be easily stolen from to enhance an existing or upcoming campaign.

Another option is a Pocket Player's Guide (or two) if you expect to need to share the rules with players a lot. It really helps having multiple copies of the book around.

Good Luck!
 
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Well, it sounds like I would enjoy it, but at the same time it smacks of what made me turn away from 3E. Too many rules! I definitely need to spend some time deciding. There is a Freeport supplement I still need.
 

I picked up the revised rules yesterday Treebore. I really like them.
Don't know anything about the Experts book.
So far I've got the Revised Rules, Fantasy Paths, and the Blight Elves book. I've got the making for a great campaign right there!
Course I won't stop there! LOL
 


That's not the right book, dyx. :)

Regarding the True20 Expert's Handbook, I'd be tempted to go for the Bestiary before that, personally. Were I buying over again, that is. I already have True20 Adventure Roleplaying, Worlds of Adventure, True20 Companion, True20 Bestiary, Blood Throne - Survivor's Guide to the Age of Blood, Liber Artefactorum, and a few other PDFs, some setting-specific.

I'd say that, for fantasy in particular, the new revised corebook and the Bestiary would cover just about everything. A setting would be nice, mind you. So, Blood Throne or another, or of course any other setting from d20 or elsewhere - there's even a large number of fan conversions around the net, most of all at true20.com .
 


Yeah, I don't have the bestiary yet, and I am sure a fair amount of it was written by my favorite dndchick, so that probably would be a great buy for me as well. I certainly don't need another "setting book", the Excalibur one is what I am interested in using anyways.
 

I haven't picked up either the Expert or Adept book, and doubt that I will. The issue I have with character-focused books is that it is more work for the GM to figure out which new feats/powers/alt rules he/she will allow in their particular game. And this is on top of all the additional feats/powers/alt rules that come with the various setting books. There reaches a point (like with all the "Complete" books from WoTC) that enough is enough when it comes to options.

I'd like to see Green Ronin (or more likely one of the super-fans) to create an excel spreadsheet that allows a GM to select through all the True20 options to quickly develop a "cheat-sheet" that players can use when developing a character. This list would also show which books the feats/powers/alt rules come from. Kind of a cross between the character gen sheet and a GURPS 4E tool I found on the SJG site a few years ago.
 

I love the True20 Adepts handbook and find it *essential*.

I am far less enamoured with the Experts handbook. First, it is more geared towards a modern setting, not fantasy (which I use True20 for). Second it is pretty rules heavy with several levels of feat chains. It does feel to me more like a 3.0/3.5 book than the streamlined True20.

Now it is not a bad book, and I went through and sifted out several feats and even some chains, but in general it is my least favorite supplement.

It just wasn't what I expected.

The Adepts was not only what I expected, but pretty much had everything I wanted in it.

Between the two i recommend the Adepts, but you may find use from the experts depending on your game and tastes.

Hope this helps.
 

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