D&D (2024) UA Ranger (Playtest 6)

[Horwath]

Actually conjure barrage is not that bad anymore. Force damage is solid. 5d8 is 3rd level benchmark damage.
So it is not way behind a fireball (5-40 force damage, no friendly fire vs. 8-48 fire damage, friendly fire).

Yes, wisdom is not your primary stat. It might be your secondary however. You should be able to afford a 14.
I would probably not prepare it, but is a fine spell to use.

Do I like it to be used with a melee weapon? No. A thrown weapon at least. Now I Imagine throwing up a dagger that splits and hits a group of goblins, killing them all in one go. Not bad at all.

maybe if there is no saving throw, it would be a good spell. Very good even.

Or if it worked similar to lightning arrow. you make attack roll vs all targets. Half damage on a miss.

Might encourage to use Hide action before using your big guns to attack with advantage.

 

[Minigiant]

Ie, were negotiating ourselves out of good ideas ahead of time based on the assumed whims of people not present in this conversation.

Until people fight for a complex skill system, we will use the only complex system will have.

 

[Emberashh]

Until people fight for a complex skill system, we will use the only complex system will have.

Non sequitur

 

[UngeheuerLich]

maybe if there is no saving throw, it would be a good spell. Very good even.

Or if it worked similar to lightning arrow. you make attack roll vs all targets. Half damage on a miss.

Might encourage to use Hide action before using your big guns to attack with advantage.

No saving throw would put it solidly over unnerfed fireball....

 

[Minigiant]

Non sequitur

The 2024 PHB is past the big ideas stage for all classes but the Monk.

There is no negotiation left. The ranger is more or less finalized in skeleton unless the new ranger is completely and utterly panned in survey.

 

[Horwath]

No saving throw would put it solidly over unnerfed fireball....

if we take 60% fail saving throw rate, then fireball is 22,4 damage on average, this would be 22,5.
better, but only by half a percent.

 

[Horwath]

The 2024 PHB is past the big ideas stage for all classes but the Monk.

There is no negotiation left. The ranger is more or less finalized in skeleton unless the new ranger is completely and utterly panned in survey.

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

My downvote is ready!

 

[Minigiant]

Ranger subclasses are

Beastmaster
Fey Wanderer
Gloomstalker
Hunter

I expected Horizon Walker as it is more classic. But Feywanderer and Gloomstalker does offer the Fey/Shadow duality.

 

[mellored]

maybe if there is no saving throw, it would be a good spell. Very good even.

It would be broken without a save. It deals more than magic missile, in a giant area.

As is, you deal slightly less than fireball (which is a bit overpowered anyways) but don't hurt friends.

Nothing wrong with that.