[UPDATED] Has ADVENTURER'S HANDBOOK Been Cancelled?

Today's official announcement about the Elemental Evil storyline mentioned Princes of the Apocalypse, a new DM screen, miniatures, video games... but not the Adventurer's Handbook! This could mean nothing, of course. The book was first announced last year, back in August; but the below screenshot from Edelweiss shows it as cancelled. The mystery deepens!

Today's official announcement about the Elemental Evil storyline mentioned Princes of the Apocalypse, a new DM screen, miniatures, video games... but not the Adventurer's Handbook! This could mean nothing, of course. The book was first announced last year, back in August; but the below screenshot from Edelweiss shows it as cancelled. The mystery deepens!

UPDATE: WotC's Mike Mearls answers "We can't cancel a book we never announced!" So that sounds like the Adventurer's Handbook will definitely not be appearing. WotC certainly wrote ad copy and designed a cover for the book (see below). Mike added "we've played things close to the vest is that it's a huge, open question on what support for the RPG should look like... we do a lot of stuff that may or may not end up as a released product. For instance, we now know that the high volume release schedule for 3e and 4e turned out to be bad for D&D. It wasn't too many settings that hurt TSR, but too many D&D books of any kind. lots of experiments ahead..."

Here's the cancellation screenshot. Now, that could mean a number of things - maybe it's been pushed back, maybe it's been renamed, or maybe it's just an admin error. Princes of the Apolocaypse has been pushed back from March 17 to April 7.

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What do we know about the book? We have a description from August 2014 and a more recent cover image. Right now, anything could be true; I haven't heard anything about a cancellation or a pushed back release date. If I do, I'll be sure to report it.


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Adventurer's Handbook (March 17, 2015; hardcover; $39.95) -- A Dungeons & Dragons Accessory.

Create Heroic Characters to Conquer the Elements in this Accessory for the World’s Greatest Roleplaying Game​

Not inherently evil, elemental power can be mastered by those with both malevolent and benign intentions. The Elemental Evil Adventurer’s Handbook provides everything that players need to build a character that is tied directly into the Elemental Evil story arc, with skills, abilities, and spells meant to augment their play experience throughout the campaign. Additionally, valuable background and story information provides greater depth and immersion.

An accessory that expands the number of options available for character creation for the Elemental Evil story arc, providing expanded backgrounds, class builds, and races meant specifically for this campaign.

Provides background and setting information critical to having the greatest chance of success.

Accessory design and development by Sasquatch Game Studio LLC.​


 

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painted_klown

First Post
RE: GF9 Spell cards

Does the box the cards come in clearly indicate what printing of them you are purchasing?
I ask because these are something I have been wanting to buy, and my players REALLY like the idea as well. :)
 


Actually, I know. In fact, we all know. Everything is there in front of us.

The books was ordered by WotC and up to a few weeks ago it was still on track to be released. We even got a teaser of the art. Now everything as changed around the time the books should go to the printer, even the content of the adventure book as changed. The release date has been pushed back too. Why?

Cause suddenly Mearls realized that too many books hurt D&D? Please. They would need to release books for that to happen. Between the release of the DMG and the adventure, 4 months will have past. Not what I would call saturating the market. He had since august to realize that D&D was already too bloatted(!). Realizing this just before he has to send the books to the printer is not reassuring.

Nah, they were doing an adventure path to be released all at once, a splat book, a board game and online stuff. All at the same time with a staff of 15 people (7 of which are working on the RPG). It was too big to handle.

That is what she said. Tee hee!
Well then you are already wrong. Sasquatch games is making PotA. Not Wizards.
 

Mark CMG

Creative Mountain Games
Small consolation for anyone who paid good money for the first printing.

It does not speak well of a company's ability to deliver quality product when errors as big as these have to be caught by the customer.

Should I therefore wait until the second printing of everything gf9 produces?


Send them back and insist on a replacement. I thought one of the reasons for the targeted, limited licensing with 5E was to maintain close oversight and control, ensure quality and avoid the so-called chafe the OGL supposedly produced. Aren't products under this licensing scheme run through WotC for quality control prior to approval?
 

guachi

Hero
If it's a website like this:

http://dnd.wizards.com/products/tabletop/players-basic-rules

I don't know what the need is for a paper manual. If you want one, and they offer one like this:

http://media.wizards.com/2014/downloads/dnd/PlayerDnDBasicRules_v0.2_PrintFriendly.pdf

Then it's easy enough to print and bind yourself.

I think there's more than anything an ideal to all of it. Keep it cheap and transparent for beginning players as much as possible, and let those who are going heavily invest do so. Those who DM will invest, and those who are interested in more will invest. Those that just want to jump into one of the big adventures (like Elemental Evil), might download the basic rules for free and sit in on a game as it starts at a game store. Very accessible and easy to get started. Brings characters from level 1 to level 15. If a new player comes in and does this, maybe they make some friends in store, and maybe have more interest in buying the players guide and maybe the monster manual.

I think they're really going to try to have very low barriers of entry.

I actually bought (well... Christmas gift) a comb binder to bind all the dndclassics material I bought. But it's generally cheaper (after enough pdfs, $70 for a binder is amortized nicely) and easier to just buy something.

I imagine a conversation like this:
Executive 1: You aren't going to make and sell a companion players book for the upcoming adventure?
Executive 2: No, we are giving it away for free!
Executive 1: How do you plan to make any money?
Executive 2: Volume!!!
Executive 1: ?????

Yes, I can do it myself. In fact it's easier for me than most people. But I don't want to. Convenience! Give me convenience!!!

I really hope the new adventure sells well, even if I have no interest in getting one. I just think they'd sell a ton of books for players if it was small enough and reasonably priced (because it was small). A nice, easy to reference document for players who picked one of the new races/classes.

I can guarantee that most of the players at the games I play will not print it up themselves.
 

Anyway some news from twitter. Princes of the Apocalypse is in the 256 - 320 page range according to Mike Mearls. Also all the material made for the Handbook will be in the PDF. Which will have stuff the the Adventure does not.

Also some people on here are acting super bratty about this.
 

guachi

Hero
RE: GF9 Spell cards

Does the box the cards come in clearly indicate what printing of them you are purchasing?
I ask because these are something I have been wanting to buy, and my players REALLY like the idea as well. :)

Yes. It says on the back of the box. I ordered the Paladin and Arcane cards before Christmas. Paladin was in stock; Arcane wasn't. Paladin arrived; it was first printing. Arcane arrived a few days later.

It says on the bottom right side of the box above the UPC code:
GF9 73904
2nd print run
 


painted_klown

First Post
Yes. It says on the back of the box. I ordered the Paladin and Arcane cards before Christmas. Paladin was in stock; Arcane wasn't. Paladin arrived; it was first printing. Arcane arrived a few days later.

It says on the bottom right side of the box above the UPC code:
GF9 73904
2nd print run
That is EXACTLY what I needed to know. Thank you! :)
 

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