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Upper_Krust said:Hi Sorcica mate!
The Trolls CR simply includes the ability score increases for size. But if we closely examine it we can see that it gains much more than the typical size increases.
I think you can 'get away with it' for monsters but not for PCs.
Hi Krust.
But then is not really possible to use the CR as ECL assumption in v.4. One has to doublecheck?

No what I said was in the Troll example, the silver rule didn't change the figures so there was no point using it.
8.2 + 1.2 (6th-level equipment) = 9.4 (7.99 after silver rule)
8.2 + 1.4 (7th) = 9.6 (8.16 after silver rule)
8.2 + 1.6 (8th) = 9.8 (8.33 after silver rule)
Therefore the Troll is ECL 8
Ok, so apply all factors and then use silver rule. You only changed the order this time around because it made no difference?
They are right beside the Beholder; Displacer Beast; Mind Flayer and Umber Hulk locked in WotCs revised OGL laws.
I temporarily circumnavigated those laws for the epic monsters for this technically playtest pdf, but the epic monsters are supposedly going to be updated before the release of the IH.
Ahh..I see
Curse you, WotC!
So what would you rate them?

The v.4 is great, I just think is times a bit more to fully grasp than v.3 did. But I'll get there!
See ya.
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