Vampire d20 And The Flying Pigs Outside My Window

[Desdichado]

I'm curious if this will come to light before the end of the year. Between the EveryQuest RPG and this possible publication White Wolf could have a banner year.

My big question, which may just be a peculiarity of the way Morrus worded it on the front page, is why is Wizards interested in talking White Wolf into doing the d20 version of Vampire? Are they just offering helpful business strategy tips to White Wolf, or are they hoping to get the fairly large group of Vampire players to run out and buy PHBs?

 

[Hattersai]

I hope this goes through. If D20 Modern cannot handle Resident Evil decent...I will have to use a Hunter D20 game.

I have a small Resident Evil thing so bear with me.

 

[Greatwyrm]

A lot of hard-core Deadlands and L5R people freaked when d20 versions of those games came out. In both cases, the designers said they weren't trashing the old system. The worse case scenario for both was dual-stats for new products. I imagine White Wolf would do something very similar for any potential WoD translations. You just can't risk alienating a customer base that big.

As far as why WotC would pursue WW for this, why not? For the most part, it costs WotC nothing. If only a small percentage of WW players find they also like d20 products, that's more money in WotC's pocket for very little risk.

 

[Darkness]

A lot of hard-core Deadlands and L5R people freaked when d20 versions of those games came out. ...

GURPS Deadlands rocks, and L5R in OA is waay cool too.

 

[Voadam]

Gurps Deadlands

There is also a d20 deadlands.

 

[Greatwyrm]

I don't recall anybody getting too upset over GURPS Deadlands.

According to the Pinnacle website, however, they got all kinds of flak for putting out a d20 book. Accusations of "selling-out" and abandoning the original system. All pretty much unfounded.

The simple fact is, people will vote with their dollars. If Pinnacle or AEG sees d20 stuff selling 3 or 4 to 1 over their original systems, the original system will probably be phased out. That's just common sense. Same with WW. If they see this still hypothetical WoD d20 stuff is not selling, they'll just go back to the Fist-Full-of-d10s-System.

 

[Xaven]

Making an Employee work 10 hours a day and not paying overtime: $0

Refusing/Delaying/Rescheduling all vacation requests: $0

Making an Employee work on his kids birthday: $0

Doing all this for one flat rate a year: Priceless !!!

Are you in the military Alaska? I would think more like 16 hour days then

 

[A2Z]

I have to say I really hope this happens. And after Vampire D20 I hope we see a D20 version of Werewolf as well. I've always liked the mythology of these games but never had the chance to get involved in them. I have an old Vampire sourcebook, first edition I think, that my brother had bought but could never justify bying more books when I was already spending so much on D&D.

 

[Blackwind]

I'd love to see official d20 versions of Vampire and Mage. Werewolf would be cool too I guess, but I don't like Werewolf anyway.

Actually, I thought a long time ago about converting Mage to d20, but the task proved too daunting. Not that I would have been able to publish it.

I hope that WW does these games under a special license from WotC, rather than just the general d20 license. That way we wouldn't have to turn to the D&D player's handbook every time we wanted to make PCs or level up our characters.

 

[Enforcer]

I think races and classes will be a little bit more complicated than:

Clans=Classes in Vampire (you can be a thug Tremere or a scholar Brujah)

or

Tribe=Races in Werewolf (there's the breed thing as well)

There's a lot of additional factors to consider:
-Generation (I suspect this will be accomplished with templates, upgradable templates )
-Auspice (templates, not upgradable)
-Breed (lupus..or the other two)
-Disciplines (some vampires focus on disciplines, others prefer attributes and abilities)
-Attributes (there's nine in the Storyteller system, six in d20)

I'm thinking that the classless system that's supposed to be in Call of Cthulu will be utilized in some way or another, but who knows? I just hope they can do it, without losing the feel to the original games.