{Vampire: The Masquerade - OOC} New York by Night

[reapersaurus]

It's funny that in a game where it's all about the talking, we all took Enchanting Voice merit.

And Shalimar - since it seems that your posting this weekend, what is the reference for a human having 21 freebie points, and 6/4/3 attributes, etc?

Jemal - you took as a Ventrue limited prey singers?!
That's Nikolai's Prey Exclusion! LOL
crud - now THERE's a built-in conflict.

edit: I just saw your update -
Wouldn't you have 2 more freebie points?
I only count 13 spent?
And would your Demeanor be Caregiver to your sister?
Wouldn't it be your outward face for everyone else?

Shalimar - wouldn't you also have 2 freebie points left?
I think you counted double on the Willpower score - you started with 4, added 2, but charged yourself 4 for it.
Just trying to play it right (and in this case, help out).

P.S. maybe someone could Photoshop in some fangs on Sabrina on that pic you got - that would really be unsettling, seeing so innocent-LOOKING of child, all blonde-and-blue-eyes, but raring back and draining someone...

 

[KitanaVorr]

oh I just realized something

if what you say is true, that vampires have a shallow version of love and Cate is bitten before she ever truly falls in love then she'll never really know true love in human form (of course thats also in Sabrina's case which is a bit sadder b/c she'll never be able to "grow" up physcially) but that would be a killer for songwriter either way to never really be able to fully experience the emotion in order to write a song.

oh oh so tragic...

I also realized something. I don't know any songs in Vietnamese! I was going to have her sing some but the only ones I know are in Chinese or Japanese! Oh dear!

EDIT: I should add another language and move a point somewhere

EDIT2: I'm sorry...the prey exclusion vs prey choice has me cracking up..."BITE" or "NO BITE"....BITE...NO BITE....BITE...NO BITE...so nobody gets to eat?

 

[Vychtorya]

Kitana -
Do you think that gamewise Ventrue would fit with your character concept the best? They are the bluebloods of the Camarilla. They are very suit and tie type vampires with a great hold on tradition because of the role they play. If it wasn't for them, the Masquerade would not exist. They value prestige and titles more than individual talent.

As I read your character concept, Toreador would be the easiest to move into. I don't have to be the one to bite you. I'm not trying to sway you to my Toreador side by my comments. I'm just trying to help based on what I know about after reading the book.

It was cute what you said about Nikolai and Vychtorya. Unfortunately though she is already bound to her true love and sire, Carrick Ashton. That doesn't mean he won't catch her eye though. He's not an ugly guy; he's fixable. A brillo pad and a good manicure should do the trick.

Jemal -
Don't you have someone in the game relying on you? Or is Sabrina kinda on her own since she got bitten by Elizabeth from a different clan? Can I ask you why Ventrue would be the best for Caitlyn? Based on the reading I have done, it just didn't seem to fit. I know it's kind of irrelevant right now since she's human and all, but I don't see how Ventrue matches her character concept as it stand right now.

I don't want to sound like I'm being bitchy, or requiring Kitana to have her character Embraced by Vychtorya - it doesn't really matter to me personally - I am just trying to help find a good transition from a human (with all their passions and preconceptions) to a vampire which is so different from everything they knew.
Vychtorya started play as a human, by the way. Only after a few game sessions of getting to know her Sire did we roleplay the Embrace.

It just doesn't seem right to me to have Jemal be a mini-coterie on his own - that is having too dominant of influence on the game.

 

[Festy_Dog]

Sorry ppl, it took way too long to get the net working here, i don't think there's any spaces left is there? Anyway i'd probably have to drop out because i've missed out on so much. Sorry for the inconvenience if any was caused.

 

[Shalimar]

And Shalimar - since it seems that your posting this weekend, what is the reference for a human having 21 freebie points, and 6/4/3 attributes, etc

Shalimar - wouldn't you also have 2 freebie points left?
I think you counted double on the Willpower score - you started with 4, added 2, but charged yourself 4 for it.
Just trying to play it right (and in this case, help out).

P.S. maybe someone could Photoshop in some fangs on Sabrina on that pic you got - that would really be unsettling, seeing so innocent-LOOKING of child, all blonde-and-blue-eyes, but raring back and draining someone...

The reference to mortals being 6/4/3 and having 21 freebies comes off the character sheet for mortals, its listed on the bottom of it.

As to the willpower, each point costs two freebies, it says two different costs in the main rulebook, but this is the one Ash went with.

Freebie Points

These are points that can be used to buy additional dots in certain aspects of your character. You have 14 of these “freebie” points to spend. See below to determine how many freebie points it costs to raise the level of something.

Disciplines (Clan): 5 points per dot*
Disciplines (Non Clan): 7 points per dot*
Attributes: 5 points per dot
Abilities: 2 points per dot
Background: 1 point per dot
Virtues: 2 points per dot
Willpower: 2 points per dot
Humanity: 1 point per dot

As far as the editing in of fangs, It would look awful unsettling on a child, o of course I'll try, I'm jut like that.

Vyc, I don't see Jemal as having a mini-coterie I think that Sabrina is going to be a lot more trouble then she is worth to him (except for the fact he is her brother and you can't shrug that off or put a price tag on it) but your right Caitlyn does seem to be more of a Toreador than anything else, and with her talent for singing(5) its unlikely that she could go for a long period without picking up a would-be Toreador sire. I mean, their wanting to prserve artists for eternity is even in their description in the book.

I don't think that anyone of us would actually be allowed to Sire anything, so the point is moot. I mean none of us have been around much longer then half a year. It takes years to build-up the favors to get the right to sire, and we would still have that new to the game image thing going on.

ps. I am moving back into my dorm today after the semester break, I shouldn't be off-line long, but I might be off for a day or two.

 

[Festy_Dog]

Hmm, would I be able to get in on this even though I've missed so much? Is there a space left for that matter?

Don't worry if there isn't any space.

How would I make my characters history, however I feel or is there anything that needs to be included?

Once again sorry for any inconvenience

 

[Ashrem Bayle [Home]]

We have one open space left.

Timothy has yet to send me anything.

So...

The next person to post a character with all of the questions answered here, will be in the group.

See my many previous posts about character creation guidlines.

Monday at midnight is the cut-off. If we don't have another player by then, I'm going ahead with those we have now.

Like I said before, I don't need a filled out character sheet to count you as a player, I am more interested in having those questions answered.

 

[Ashrem Bayle [Home]]

Reaper:

You'll need to look at your Willpower again. Indeed that was a typo in the rule book. It should be 2 points per dot. If I where you, I'd put the points in Courage. They cost 1 for 1, and effect your Willpower as well as the ability to resist fear.

Also, I noticed you have the unbondable merit. I'd rather you not have that because you are a Tremere and it would sidestep your clan weakness. In my opinion, clan weaknesses should never be something you can bypass.

 

[Festy_Dog]

Kewl, I'll try to get a character in right away, but first I gotta sleep.

How does an inquisitive brujah who studies religion sound?

 

[KitanaVorr]

Whoa

Where do I even begin?

If I had known this would start a huge discussion, well, LOL I'd probaby do the exact same thing! Anyway....I do agree that Cate does fit much better with the Toreador with her demeanor and talents, I won't deny that. She could probably just slide right into Toreador without little mental anguish.

But her nature is most definitely Ventrue, and that will come out if she is embraced by a Ventrue. She doesn't want to admit that she has a bit of the snob in her, but she does. She was raised in priviledge after all and that's also why I gave her a few points in leadership. And becoming a Ventrue will further her mental trauma...she doesn't want that part of her coming out.

There's no requirement that Jemal be the one to sire me (jump in anytime buddy) we just thought it would be an interesting story.

However if none of the PC's are old enough to sire, I do have my eye on Valentine.

And of course, the person who sired her doesn't have to sire her because she has enormous talent(this sentance would sound alot funnier if she was a guy). It could be as basic as, well, he (or she) wants her because she's beautiful and charming. It doesn't have to be honorable at all.

But I am setting her up to be very formidable after her transformation (as she learns the ways of the game) the likes of which will rival even Enreala or Elentari (Jemal understands this joke).

However it would be interesting to see the contention between an honorable Toreador preserving her for her talent and a Ventrue for er more base reasons. (of course the Ventrue would be getting a hell of alot more than he intended with Caitlyn)

Okay all this chatter boils down to this. There would be very little conflict with Caitlyn if she went into Toreador because it fits her demeanor so well and is exactly what she would want to be. HOWEVER if she went into one of the other clans, there would much tension in her acceptance of her transformation which interests me.

ta-da!