VILLAINS - Marvel Minions

Kevin Perrine said:
Bullseye... I'd consider him a A-level
Yeah pretty much agree with that one...

Kevin Perrine said:
My question for him is why would he be working with this gang? If I remember correctly he's got big mob ties as an enforcer.

Well money is money... but I honestly don't know... :\ He's pretty much untouched besides the simple desires of being a criminal... I sort of like villains like you see in batman's rogue galley, that the reader can sympathize and with them... That's not something you really see considered in the low tier villains...

Kevin Perrine said:
Still - he'd be great.

Let me give it some more thought, but I want to ask you a few questions, why do you want low tier and forgot villains from the marvel universe? :)

No I'm not trying to convince you to allow us to run Bullseye, Magneto, Doc Ock, etc. I just trying to see the motivation behind the game?

What's driving this idea for you? :) (if it's the marvel heroes we are going to encounter would it still work if we made are own villains? :)

Note: I'm not trying to change your game, I'm just trying to understand your desires and the direction you want the game to go. (basically I want to get on the same page as you are. :) )
 

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If you are still pursuing this (saw the Powers thread) I would like to get in as Blacklash or Shocker.
I am kind of partial to Marvel U second tier characters anyway.

Headed to Gen Con within the week. Please don't skip me if things happen at that point.

Nuke
 

Man I love the third tier villains! Would this be chat style or play by post? I prefer the latter as it easier with my schedule but depending on when we play I might be able to do the former
My thoughts as whom to play would be either:
Batroc the Leaper (A zany French accent and his own strange code of honor. What more can you ask for in a villain?)
Cobra (Arrogant, sneaky snake who’s a coward at heart, could be a lot of fun to play)
Jack-O-Lantern (He’s a fourth-rate Green Goblin who wears a Pumpkin on his head what’s not to love?)
Are those guys third tier enough?
 

Brother Shatterstone said:
a few questions,
why do you want low tier and forgot villains from the marvel universe? :))

They never get the love the fully deserve... :p
Also - I loved the idea of Thunderbolts, which would be a similar idea - except they play heroes...
And we've seen all the Doc Ock and Sandman and Magneto's of the world over and over... I'd like to expand on the low tier motivations/personalities for fun.
See the other side of the track when you're not a Doctor Doom...
It's also almost like playing an original character with guidelines.


Brother Shatterstone said:
No I'm not trying to convince you to allow us to run Bullseye, Magneto, Doc Ock, etc. I just trying to see the motivation behind the game? )

Motivations:
- run/play a complete Villain game (trying to work it out for GM style)
- sheer love of the forgotten villains
- and all the notes above.


Brother Shatterstone said:
What's driving this idea for you? :) (if it's the marvel heroes we are going to encounter would it still work if we made are own villains? :))

yes - it would still work... however I'd like you to have a set paramiter of the villains' motivations from the limited appearances you've seen them in. and use that to mold out a better detailed character than ever got invested in by the writers...
Plus - honestly, I can play with original characters in any game... but it will feel more exciting to me if someone's developing the story and action behind Batroc the Leaper as I NPC Cap and the other heroes.
Basically I'd rather see a C-tier than a nobody face my favorite Marvel Super Heroes! :)


Brother Shatterstone said:
Note: I'm not trying to change your game, I'm just trying to understand your desires and the direction you want the game to go. (basically I want to get on the same page as you are. :) )

Does that do it?
want more?
I'm happy to try and explain better, feel free to ask!


Nuke261 said:
If you are still pursuing this (saw the Powers thread) I would like to get in as Blacklash or Shocker.
I am kind of partial to Marvel U second tier characters anyway.

Headed to Gen Con within the week. Please don't skip me if things happen at that point.

Nuke

Cool!
Blacklash and the Shocker are reserved for you.
By the time you get back we may have a game ready to go.
Gotta get at least 2-3 people willing to play.



GrayPumpkin said:
Man I love the third tier villains! Would this be chat style or play by post? I prefer the latter as it easier with my schedule but depending on when we play I might be able to do the former
My thoughts as whom to play would be either:
Batroc the Leaper (A zany French accent and his own strange code of honor. What more can you ask for in a villain?)
Cobra (Arrogant, sneaky snake who’s a coward at heart, could be a lot of fun to play)
Jack-O-Lantern (He’s a fourth-rate Green Goblin who wears a Pumpkin on his head what’s not to love?)
Are those guys third tier enough?

Play By Post, on a fairly regular/daily schedule. At most I'd like to see everyone post at least once per 3 days...

Batroc, Cobra and Jack-o-Lantern (I forgot about him!!) are perfect!
It's a real toss up for me between Batroc and Jack-o-Lantern.
They're on hold for you to choose one.
Do so and give me a background from their appearances and how you'd play them. Then later I'll want you to fill in "extra" non-canon details to flesh them out if you'd like...

I'll talk about Power Levels and such later. (probably PL9 for everyone but special cases) and the other rules of the game, assuming this one's got legs!


So...
is that 2-3 players so far??

go out and recruit for it folks. ;)
-kev-
 

Electro is in your list of playable, but ont sandman. Ok, I am too used to Ultimate universe, where I would put Sandman lower on the list than electro. Sandman only appear in Ultimate-6 and electro appear too in the kingpin story...

Man, I have it! Dumb I didn't thought of it before. It would be cool to play the guy with the whip in the kingpin story (Think he is called Montana, but not sure... will have to re read the story, that's sad :) ). No power, but all in style. :cool:
 
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Play by post is great and should no problem making the posting requirements.
I think I’ll go with Batroc. As how I’ll play him I plan to draw mostly from how Mark Gruenwald portrayed him on his classic Cap run.
Batroc is a showboat, he craves notoriety and is out to prove what big bad villain he is, he’s a show-off always taking time to try and humble his opponents before beating them. He has big ego always acting like he’s the leader of the team, even if he isn’t. Thing is though he talks big, he’s really a softy as far as being a villain goes, he has a certain code of honor, for example he’s not a killer and may even go out of his way to keep others from killing. While he craves to utterly defeat Cap and proves once and for all he is the better fighter, he also secretly admires Cap, once during the “Bloodstone Hunt” he even saved Cap from being eaten by sharks because he thought it was an ignoble death for such a worthy opponent.
 

I'm definitely in and I'd like to try either Porcupine or (if his death and any plot ideas make that too difficult) Eel II. Tarantula is very tempting as well :) But not sure if we want two fighting feet guys in the group. The chracterizations of each are as I mentioned previously.
 


Kevin Perrine said:
Motivations:
- run/play a complete Villain game (trying to work it out for GM style)
- sheer love of the forgotten villains
- and all the notes above.

Makes sense, I think I can work with what you have going on here. :)

Kevin Perrine said:
yes - it would still work...

Okay, theirs only one original character that I would like you to look at... She's would actually be an evil version of a PC hero that I ran... She would probably make a good c tier villain... (though rather dark: Look for Mistress Mind link )

Kevin Perrine said:
Plus - honestly, I can play with original characters in any game... but it will feel more exciting to me if someone's developing the story and action behind Batroc the Leaper as I NPC Cap and the other heroes. Basically I'd rather see a C-tier than a nobody face my favorite Marvel Super Heroes! :)

Right, I finish making my list of possible characters... One last question their seems to be little common enemy... err hero in all the selected characters past. Is that okay or do you want everyone to come from say Spiderman’s rogue galley?


Anyhow, I’ll make a list of low tier villains I’m interested in. :) (BTW: I’ll probably pick a female because I hate to see the same gender in every character.)
 
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Okay... here's what I found using the Marvel Directory, awesome find btw. :)

Ecstasy, wow probably a D tier villainous, it took me about 30 minutes to find a picture of her... Picture could probably see the others in a group as away to spread her drug trade... (We would have to decided rather or not cloak has his powers... If he has them you can consider this one snuffed.)

Enchantress Not a Thor fan so I have no idea if she's forgotten or not, but wow, both insanely strong and a sorcery powers... I can’t see her being a c tier villainous at all. Why would team up with this group? I'm not really sure, but if I'll give it more thought if you think she's low tier enough or not to powerful... :)

Spider-Woman In case we go "hate Spidy" and you really dislike the next idea... ;) :lol:

She-Venom Just because I'm finding this to be too much fun... :D

Corona Holly cow I remember her! Not that I'm really proud of it but yet another Spiderman villain.

Candra One of the few evil female mutants I've found so far...

Typhoid Mary In case we go Daredevil....

Diamondback you said something about Captain America right? ;)

Fin Fang Foom yeah I know not a female but I've always wanted to play a dragon... ;)

Goblyn Queen probably forgotten for good reason...

Lorelei In case some like the idea of the enchantress...

Black Queen A lot like the character I showed you in the link, but probably more powerful... I don't see us doing mutants though so probably not a good choice.

Okay the Marvel Directory died when I was doing this so this list is for me also... I'll look through them in the MD when it comes back up. The rap sheet website isn't as good but at least you know your dealing with villains. :)
 
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