Vow of Poverty and a 'party' Cure wand

[Michael Morris]

Choices of evils like that are what make playing exalted characters tortuous under the wrong DM's.

 

[Piratecat]

I posted the relevant parts on that already...

Please don't get in the habit of posting scans of copyrighted materials.

 

[AnonymousOne]

Self-sacrifice is a trait of Good people.
Sucks to be you, -- N

More like "sucks to be Good".

 

[Tarek]

Actually, rereading the VoP under this strict "legalistic" interpretation, it doesn't specifically prohibit using a potion on someone else. Therefore he wouldn't lose the VoP.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Actually, rereading the VoP under this strict "legalistic" interpretation, it doesn't specifically prohibit using a potion on someone else. Therefore he wouldn't lose the VoP.

The fact that he can drink a potion belonging to someone else suggests that, indeed, the application of a potion is not considered 'using a magic item' for purposes of the VoP.

However, he explicitly may not cast a spell from a wand, so the situtation in the OP is prohibited.

-Hyp.

 

[TheBladeOfEilistraee]

Who would possibly take the Vow of Poverty?

It doesn't do you any good. You can easily increase your AC one way or another (from magic armors, to high Dex, to a good Monk), do it really doesn't do you any good. Saving throws, and ability scores as well.

There's nothing a good potion of Owl's Wisdom can't do. Personally, the Vow of Poverty is pretty uselles. And what's the use of a Druid who's taken the VoP?

No use of Magic wands (esspecially the Wand of Cure Light Wounds) has no...use.
I'm sorry this is just my opinion on the Vow of Poverty.

It. Sucks.

 

[carborundum]

I don't like it either, but the player has already said he'd have the druid die a dramatic death, or wander into the sunset, if the whole exalted thing doesn't work out for him.

This party is hilarious - the barbarian wants to become a forsaker so he's decided to refuse healing potions. It sure was funny when he took a critical rapier thrust with sneak damage in the first few minutes of the session and wrestled with his conscience for hours while hiding behind the other fighter. They're crippling themselves!

 

[Blackrat]

Who would possibly take the Vow of Poverty?

It doesn't do you any good. You can easily increase your AC one way or another (from magic armors, to high Dex, to a good Monk), do it really doesn't do you any good. Saving throws, and ability scores as well.

There's nothing a good potion of Owl's Wisdom can't do. Personally, the Vow of Poverty is pretty uselles. And what's the use of a Druid who's taken the VoP?

No use of Magic wands (esspecially the Wand of Cure Light Wounds) has no...use.
I'm sorry this is just my opinion on the Vow of Poverty.

It. Sucks.

Yes. This is completely true on mechanical aspects. But, I am at the moment planning to play a monk with very meditative way of life. With possibly the intake that materialistic wealth is bad for one's inner self. I think the whole feat was made for those who would like to play those "real-world inspired" characters who think this way, without penalizing too much. Because the standard of D&D seems to require the christmas-tree of magic items.

Mechanically the feat sucks. But it is a good RP-opportunity.

To the OP. Go with RAW. It should still be a sacrifice to take the vow. Afterall, that's what it is for, in my opinion.

 

[Dice4Hire]

The real problem of VOP is that the player has to be gooder than good. And that is not supposedd to be an easy path.

Plus he fact that they are getting a whole lot of abilities for the VOP should mean that they are held to not only the letter but also the spirit of the vow. And in fact, the character themselves should be holding themselves to it, not trying to weasel out this and that, and argue a fine point or two. Frankly, if they do that, the gods should remove the benefits of the vow from them.

The feats, prestige classes and the mindsets present in ED is one reason I ban the book at my table. Just a poorly made and thought out book.

 

[Blackrat]

The real problem of VOP is that the player has to be gooder than good. And that is not supposedd to be an easy path.

Plus he fact that they are getting a whole lot of abilities for the VOP should mean that they are held to not only the letter but also the spirit of the vow. And in fact, the character themselves should be holding themselves to it, not trying to weasel out this and that, and argue a fine point or two. Frankly, if they do that, the gods should remove the benefits of the vow from them.

The feats, prestige classes and the mindsets present in ED is one reason I ban the book at my table. Just a poorly made and thought out book.

This I agree completely. It should only be used to emhazis good roleplaying of "Good" characters. It is not to be used just a mechanics feat, but more of a fluff feat.