Warforged 4th edition problems

[BoneMonkey80]

in the picture above the first racial power is from the 4th edition monster manual

the second one is from the warforged PDF available from the wizard website as linked below
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/drfe/20080606b

and the third is from the warforged paladin PDF available from the wizard website as linked below
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/drfe/20080606b

my question is this why are they DIFFERENT lol ? shouldnt't they be the same?

what should i do ?

 

[Drakhar]

Realize that the 2nd and 3rd ones are the exact same thing?

 

[Shroomy]

The two from the wizard's website are the same power. I'd go with that one.

 

[BoneMonkey80]

no please read carefually the last two are different

 

[Mithreinmaethor]

The 2nd and 3rd are the same. The only difference is is that they are showing you on that pregen character what it goes to if/when he levels. They just did the math for you already like they do with all their pregens.

They only put the stuff in the back of the MM to allow people who cant wait to play one of those races. And like all monsters and races in the MM they dont follow the same rules as player characters do.

So you basically have the benefit of them putting out the fleshed out Warforged rules for you early.

I would have rather seen Gnomes or (Heaven Forbid) Drow get fleshed out now since FR is the 1st realm to be released. They could have waited to release the Warforged until next year around the time the Eberron books come out. But thats just my preference.

 

[LightPhoenix]

no please read carefually the last two are different

By one word, and not a terribly important one at that. You're nit-picking on that one.

 

[Prophet2b]

I would use the one from the PDF, just because the PDF is a much fuller description regarding playing a Warforged as a PC (just like the other playable races in the PHB). It also, I think, is what is happening with the Warforged Paladin - they just simplified the rules for a 3-level character like they did in Keep on the Shadowfell.

The MM version... I dunno what to tell you about that one. They decided it needed more when they got around to a full fledged race? I dunno.

 

[BoneMonkey80]

the last one is missing the + one half your level

when you are bloodied

thats signifigant dont you think ?

 

[Rechan]

my question is this why are they DIFFERENT lol ? shouldnt't they be the same?

One is from the monster manual; it's a quick and dirty one for those who want to play the monster NOW NOW NOW NOW. You know how Halflings receive a +5 vs fear, and +2 vs OAs? Those sundry little abilities are lacking from the racial writeups in the MM because the ones in the MM are not full racial writeups.

The Second one from the wizards' website from an article about a full racial writeup of Warforged, the power made for them to be PCs.

The third is the Second power applied to a specific character. Look at all the other pregens - all the other powers have the numbers spelled out specific to that character's stats.

what should i do ?

If you are the DM, decide which you want the players to use; the less powerful racial writeup in the MM, or the more detailed and potent racial writeup off the Wizards' site. If you are the player, ask your DM which one he prefers.

 

[darukaru]

the last one is missing the + one half your level

when you are bloodied

thats signifigant dont you think ?

Your reading comprehension is not very good. This has already been explained: for pre-generated characters, all of the variables have been calculated for you. Therefore, the part about "one-half your level" is omitted in the pre-gen character, because the value is either 0 (at level 1) or 1 (at levels 2 and 3).