What about my dragonborn

This is why whenever I run a campaign in my own setting, I never allow dwarves. Had SOOOOOO many players who thought they were the hottest thing on the planet because they could end/begin every sentence with "aye" and talk in a butched Irish accent while they pretended that their character was drinking all the beer in the lands.

"Roll to see if I'm getting drunk!" Yes, you are, you drank so much you killed every dwarf EVER.

Sweet !! That is such a classic stereotype it should almost be mandated as the preferred play style for Dwarves in the new PHB.:cool:
 

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Out forever: Eladrin (retcon the unholy orcus out of this travesty)
Exactly. I have no idea why they renamed elves and then called something else an elf. Get rid of that dorky, woodsy Grugach and give me a real, arcanist high elf.

I'm not entirely kidding. I don't understand how the wood elf became the standard in 4e. D&D elves have generally favored Celeborn, Galadriel, and Elrond more than Legolas.

That said, I have a player who is definitely in the Legolas (and maybe even ElfQuest) camp. Not my preference, but she has fun with it. The elf/eladrin split is actually a pretty reasonable solution for the two views of elf. I might have kept the elf name for the arcanists, but I'll live. I'm indifferent to the teleporting and feywild origins, but the rest of the "eladrin" vibe is more elven to me than the 4e "elf". If I only get to keep one, I say screw the ranger elf and give me my aloof elves who are the masters of magical secrets humans cannot fathom.
 

This is why whenever I run a campaign in my own setting, I never allow dwarves. Had SOOOOOO many players who thought they were the hottest thing on the planet because they could end/begin every sentence with "aye" and talk in a butched Irish accent while they pretended that their character was drinking all the beer in the lands.

"Roll to see if I'm getting drunk!" Yes, you are, you drank so much you killed every dwarf EVER.

Your dwarves got spontaneous severe alcohol poisoning too? Did the fire giants attack them at dawn and finish the hungover ones that rolled high off as well? Or was it the random earthquake?
 

Your dwarves got spontaneous severe alcohol poisoning too? Did the fire giants attack them at dawn and finish the hungover ones that rolled high off as well? Or was it the random earthquake?

No, I actually just wrote the setting so they have never existed.
 

I think there has been a bit of a misunderstanding.

I am in no way implying that dragonborn, warforged, drow, minotaurs, etc., should not be a part of 5E. Quite the contrary, I would like there to be dozens, hundreds, of playable races in the D&D game. I just think that only 5 or 6 of them should be printed in the Player's Handbook, and all the rest should go in other books.

That's all.
 

This is why whenever I run a campaign in my own setting, I never allow dwarves. Had SOOOOOO many players who thought they were the hottest thing on the planet because they could end/begin every sentence with "aye" and talk in a butched Irish accent while they pretended that their character was drinking all the beer in the lands.

"Roll to see if I'm getting drunk!" Yes, you are, you drank so much you killed every dwarf EVER.

Sounds like they had fun how awful for you.
 

I think there has been a bit of a misunderstanding.

I am in no way implying that dragonborn, warforged, drow, minotaurs, etc., should not be a part of 5E. Quite the contrary, I would like there to be dozens, hundreds, of playable races in the D&D game. I just think that only 5 or 6 of them should be printed in the Player's Handbook, and all the rest should go in other books.

That's all.

I know, but I'm not sure I'm willing to wait for 5e to be more than a LOTR rerun.
 


Strange, I want dragonborn (though with wings) and tiefling as PCs in 5e, but I'm not sure I want them in core.

I'd be perfectly happy with a supplemental book, ala 2Es Complete Book of Humanoids that covered the more odd races - shifters, dragonborn, tiefling, deva, aasimaar, warforged, minotaur, gith, dark creepers, orcs, goblins, kobolds, bugbears, drow, thri-kreen, haf-giant, canniballings (halfling cannibals), derro, centaurs, vampires, lupins, mummies, ghouls, etc. Say, 96 pages with 1/2 a page for each race.
 


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