Eternalknight
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Well? 
What is your favourite Trek series, and why?
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RangerWickett
Legend
The next generation had the ingenious explorative impulse of the original series, but it was far more developed and mature. After the first season, Next Gen became a great series. The actors were uniformly excellent, with enough diversity to have a huge array of episode styles (Data, Riker, and Picard are all very different), and a chemistry that just worked better. I loved every character in The Next Generation, but only about half on DS9, and . . . two on Voyager. The original series was too immature . . . too Roddenberry . . . to really compete.
Never saw the animated series much, but I imagine it'd be a lot like the original series.
Never saw the animated series much, but I imagine it'd be a lot like the original series.
Crothian
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TOS was good, but I wasn';t around for the original run and thus could enjoy it in that context.
TAS was just wierd. I was never a big fan of it at all.
TNG was excellent, my favorite. Good acting, good stories and still creative.
DS9 I liked as well. THe characters and stories were not as strong as TNG, but I really like the continued story line they did.
Vayager was blah. They had a few good episodes and some good characters, but when they added 7 of 9 and made her the most important character on the show, I started to like it even less.
Enterprise has been hit and miss. Some creative shows and good writing, but the characters still need to be fleshed out more. And I'm not sure what to think of the meta plot. We shall see.
TAS was just wierd. I was never a big fan of it at all.
TNG was excellent, my favorite. Good acting, good stories and still creative.
DS9 I liked as well. THe characters and stories were not as strong as TNG, but I really like the continued story line they did.
Vayager was blah. They had a few good episodes and some good characters, but when they added 7 of 9 and made her the most important character on the show, I started to like it even less.
Enterprise has been hit and miss. Some creative shows and good writing, but the characters still need to be fleshed out more. And I'm not sure what to think of the meta plot. We shall see.
Kind of a tough call for me between the original and TNG with the edge going to TNG. As a kid I loved the original series and was one of those who saw every episode several times (although was not a full fledged Star Trek geek in that I didn't memorize every little detail and never went to a convention, I just enjoyed the show). It was innovative, introduced many ideas which are still used today, addressed a lot of social issues which was different for a sci fi series, and was exciting. I still catch the occasional rerun on SciFi Channel and they hold up well.
TNG meets all of the above criteria but also has (much) better acting and better special effects.
DS9 didn't really get that good until after Worf joined the show. After that it was great. It comes in third so far.
I agree that Enterprise has been hit or miss but both TNG and DS9 didn't really take off until after the first season so only time will tell. I do think that the show has a lot of potential.
Voyager lost me after the first couple of seasons. I tried to like it but just couldn't get into it.
I don't remember much of the animated series. I don't think it lasted more than one season. I don't remember it being very good.
TNG meets all of the above criteria but also has (much) better acting and better special effects.
DS9 didn't really get that good until after Worf joined the show. After that it was great. It comes in third so far.
I agree that Enterprise has been hit or miss but both TNG and DS9 didn't really take off until after the first season so only time will tell. I do think that the show has a lot of potential.
Voyager lost me after the first couple of seasons. I tried to like it but just couldn't get into it.
I don't remember much of the animated series. I don't think it lasted more than one season. I don't remember it being very good.
Deep Space 9 is my favorite for several reasons. I love the continuity and the gradual buildup. The Dominion War was awesome and all of the characters very interesting. Even Dr. Bashir became interesting once we learned he was genetically enhanced. I like the fact the Sisko was not afraid to break protocol and take risks.
Ranger REG
Explorer
Gotta agree with njrpg above, although I have been trying to grasp the half-prophet thing. Fortunately, he didn't have any exceptional powers until the end, when he "ascends" to the Celestial Temple and going to study there for a "while."
The stories were well-written especially when they used the Dominion War story arc, most of the episodes were well-directed and well-acted. We got to explore more on the Klingon culture (of which I am a fan of). They make the Ferengi more decent than TNG version. Brought the Romulans into a temporary alliance against a common enemy. Despite his end, Gul Dukat makes an interesting antagonist, which is not necessarily villainous ALL THE TIME.
DS9 focuses not just the Bajorans but the Cardassians. We also get to know more about the symbiotic worm/host of the Trills. And of course, Odo's species, the shapeshifting Founders of the Dominion.
You know, for a space station that don't go anywhere but stay in such a volatile frontier space, it makes for an interesting stage.
Oh, yeah. I almost forgot. It took me a while, but I have come to love that "tough little ship" (as Wil Riker once remarked in Star Trek: First Contact) despite my initial rejection of a new starfleet ship design. ("What?!?!!! The warp drives are tucked in?!?!!!)
The stories were well-written especially when they used the Dominion War story arc, most of the episodes were well-directed and well-acted. We got to explore more on the Klingon culture (of which I am a fan of). They make the Ferengi more decent than TNG version. Brought the Romulans into a temporary alliance against a common enemy. Despite his end, Gul Dukat makes an interesting antagonist, which is not necessarily villainous ALL THE TIME.
DS9 focuses not just the Bajorans but the Cardassians. We also get to know more about the symbiotic worm/host of the Trills. And of course, Odo's species, the shapeshifting Founders of the Dominion.
You know, for a space station that don't go anywhere but stay in such a volatile frontier space, it makes for an interesting stage.
Oh, yeah. I almost forgot. It took me a while, but I have come to love that "tough little ship" (as Wil Riker once remarked in Star Trek: First Contact) despite my initial rejection of a new starfleet ship design. ("What?!?!!! The warp drives are tucked in?!?!!!)
Mustrum_Ridcully
Legend
Since Enterprise hasn`t started yet in Germany, and I never saw the Animated Series, I am a bittle more limited in choice.
1.) Deep Space Nine.
At first, it was difficult the differences with DS9 - it was a Space Station, not a starship, and that made many things at the series unlike the earlier two series. But the storyline became interesting - there WAS a storyline, and several old Startrek traditions seemed to be broken (the good federation had some darker parts, and not everything went well and fair... )
After I read a book about the Making of Deep Space Nine, that was really well written, i liked DS9 even more.
2.) Startrek The Next Generation is the close second.
The atmosphere was a bit more... sterile, as in DS9 - basic Startrek, so to say - but it had many good stories, and the actors were good. (Patrick Steward is great. )
The movies were so-so. Generations had many plot holes. First Contact was great Action movie and involved the borg.
Startrek IX is not my favorite movie, but it is still good.
3.) The Original Series.
The Classics. I liked it. My first real Science Fiction Experience.
The movies II, III, IV and VI were good (IV and VI my favorites...)
The novels that are written in that era are also very interesting.
4.) Voyager.
Voyager is not really bad, but it never was really good. I watched (or at least tried to) every episode, and there were some highlights. But to get really well, the had to use plot devies like borg or Species 8742 (I liked the scene where we see them destroying several borg cubes at once. There is always a bigger fish in the sea). But I did not feel sad when the series ended, unlike TNG or DS9.
(Hehe. Or even the end of a buffy season )
1.) Deep Space Nine.
At first, it was difficult the differences with DS9 - it was a Space Station, not a starship, and that made many things at the series unlike the earlier two series. But the storyline became interesting - there WAS a storyline, and several old Startrek traditions seemed to be broken (the good federation had some darker parts, and not everything went well and fair... )
After I read a book about the Making of Deep Space Nine, that was really well written, i liked DS9 even more.
2.) Startrek The Next Generation is the close second.
The atmosphere was a bit more... sterile, as in DS9 - basic Startrek, so to say - but it had many good stories, and the actors were good. (Patrick Steward is great.
)The movies were so-so. Generations had many plot holes. First Contact was great Action movie and involved the borg.
Startrek IX is not my favorite movie, but it is still good.
3.) The Original Series.
The Classics. I liked it. My first real Science Fiction Experience.
The movies II, III, IV and VI were good (IV and VI my favorites...)
The novels that are written in that era are also very interesting.
4.) Voyager.
Voyager is not really bad, but it never was really good. I watched (or at least tried to) every episode, and there were some highlights. But to get really well, the had to use plot devies like borg or Species 8742 (I liked the scene where we see them destroying several borg cubes at once.
There is always a bigger fish in the sea). But I did not feel sad when the series ended, unlike TNG or DS9. (Hehe. Or even the end of a buffy season
)The original series. The Kirk/Spock McCoy trinity had a comradeship not seen in any of the other series.
DS9= boring
TNG had the worst characters ever (The Crushers) mixed with some average (Picard, Riker, Troi) and some really good Worf Data and Jordi. A mixed bag for me all in all.
Voyager seemed scattered and rather directionless ( kind of ironic in that)
Enterprise haven't seen enough of to judge yet.
DS9= boring
TNG had the worst characters ever (The Crushers) mixed with some average (Picard, Riker, Troi) and some really good Worf Data and Jordi. A mixed bag for me all in all.
Voyager seemed scattered and rather directionless ( kind of ironic in that)
Enterprise haven't seen enough of to judge yet.
Doc_Subtlety
First Post
I voted for DS9.
IMO:
TOS:
The Original Series shouldn't be in the same category with the other shows. Apples and oranges, as far as I'm concerned. That said, I'd still rather watch "Trials and Tribble-a-tions" than "The Trouble With Tribbles."
TNG:
This was a good, solid show. I loved most of the characters - even the Crushers and Troi eventually grew on me. (Doc Crusher taking command of the Enterprise in "Descent" was excellent, as was Troi's bridge officer test.)
The only thing that really bugged me about it was that it was too formula, and not enough arc. I loved episodes that actually connected to each other.
DS9:
This had everything I liked about TNG, except specific characters, but it also had more unusual stories, and it had an overall arc. Plus, the show itself was gritty - I really liked seeing the Trek universe from someplace *other* than the bridge of a Starfleet flagship.
Plus, it had my favorite episode of all time: "In the Pale Moonlight." It's the one where Sisko allowed a Romulan ambassador to be assassinated, in order to turn the war around? One of the finest hours of TV I've ever seen.
So, DS9 wins.
(I did have a few complaints about the show: the prophets started out really cool, but ended up lame in the final season, and Gul Dukat turned from a complex, layered villain to a comic book freak...but the show accomplished so many other things that those are forgivable flaws.)
Voyager:
This show was garbage. It had a few really good episodes. It did. I actually liked the adventures of Captain Proton (sue me ), and I really liked "Timeless."
But overall, it was just garbage. Among other flaws:
- They ruined the Borg.
- Captain Kirkina - I mean, "Janeway," was criminally insane. (This is what happens when a loose cannon like that doesn't let off steam with green alien space babes - the frustrations makes them blow *everything* up, instead of just Klingons. )
- They killed Kes! (Those bastards!)
- It didn't just lack story arc. It lacked continuity entirely.
I could go on, but...meh.
Enterprise:
I've watched 2 whole episodes. (Sat down for 4, but I hit reruns twice. Bad omen. )
It's okay. Definitely better than Voyager - from what little I've seen, the show is at least internally consistent. But it really just felt like a rehash of other shows, so it couldn't hold my interest. Same old aliens (even Ferengi), same old plots, same old bridge crew.
I wish they'd done something creative, this time around.
IMO:
TOS:
The Original Series shouldn't be in the same category with the other shows. Apples and oranges, as far as I'm concerned. That said, I'd still rather watch "Trials and Tribble-a-tions" than "The Trouble With Tribbles."
TNG:
This was a good, solid show. I loved most of the characters - even the Crushers and Troi eventually grew on me. (Doc Crusher taking command of the Enterprise in "Descent" was excellent, as was Troi's bridge officer test.)
The only thing that really bugged me about it was that it was too formula, and not enough arc. I loved episodes that actually connected to each other.
DS9:
This had everything I liked about TNG, except specific characters, but it also had more unusual stories, and it had an overall arc. Plus, the show itself was gritty - I really liked seeing the Trek universe from someplace *other* than the bridge of a Starfleet flagship.
Plus, it had my favorite episode of all time: "In the Pale Moonlight." It's the one where Sisko allowed a Romulan ambassador to be assassinated, in order to turn the war around? One of the finest hours of TV I've ever seen.
So, DS9 wins.
(I did have a few complaints about the show: the prophets started out really cool, but ended up lame in the final season, and Gul Dukat turned from a complex, layered villain to a comic book freak...but the show accomplished so many other things that those are forgivable flaws.)
Voyager:
This show was garbage. It had a few really good episodes. It did. I actually liked the adventures of Captain Proton (sue me
), and I really liked "Timeless." But overall, it was just garbage. Among other flaws:
- They ruined the Borg.
- Captain Kirkina - I mean, "Janeway," was criminally insane. (This is what happens when a loose cannon like that doesn't let off steam with green alien space babes - the frustrations makes them blow *everything* up, instead of just Klingons.
)- They killed Kes! (Those bastards!)
- It didn't just lack story arc. It lacked continuity entirely.
I could go on, but...meh.
Enterprise:
I've watched 2 whole episodes. (Sat down for 4, but I hit reruns twice. Bad omen.
)It's okay. Definitely better than Voyager - from what little I've seen, the show is at least internally consistent. But it really just felt like a rehash of other shows, so it couldn't hold my interest. Same old aliens (even Ferengi), same old plots, same old bridge crew.
I wish they'd done something creative, this time around.
