D&D (2024) what should the wizard's subclasses be?

[CreamCloud0]

why would clerics be necromancers? I have never heard of that in fantasy?

i mean the cleric of a god of the undead isn't all that uncommon of a concept, especially in DnD.

 

[MockingBird]

I'd prefer they just use schools for subclasses.

 

[Kobold Stew]

why would clerics be necromancers? I have never heard of that in fantasy?

I don't think this is particularly controversial.

Clerics can specialize in necrotic damage; there are Death and Grave domains; they have unique powers to control undead, and more than any other class they deal with the line between life and death. In AD&D Animate Dead was on both classes' spell lists. In 3.5 animate dead was a level 3 spell, level 4 for wizards; evil clerics could also rebuke or control undead.

 

[Mind of tempest]

I don't think this is particularly controversial.

Clerics can specialize in necrotic damage; there are Death and Grave domains; they have unique powers to control undead, and more than any other class they deal with the line between life and death. In AD&D Animate Dead was on both classes' spell lists. In 3.5 animate dead was a level 3 spell, level 4 for wizards; evil clerics could also rebuke or control undead.

death is the domain of killing and murder that is like saying a berserker is a necromancer.
grave is the anti-undead cleric it is about the sacred rites of burial.

ad&d has a lot of all evil behave similarly not a justification besides when I think fantasy ad&d is not my core go-to.

 

[Mind of tempest]

I'd prefer they just use schools for subclasses.

then what should the schools be?

 

[Crimson Longinus]

Scholar - Wizardest of the wizards. The magical nerd. Has widest selection of magic and expertise in knowledge skills. The classic Swiss army knife of spells.

Battle Mage - Wizard who focuses on wielding magic as a weapon and is at home at battlefields. Can wear armour and has most powerful destructive spells.

Necromancer - Master of death and shadow magic. Can drain and channel life force to self and others. Can summon undead minions.

Lore Raider - Magical adventurer who hunts ancient secrets and is no stranger to climbing, jumping and disarming traps.

 

[Kobold Stew]

death is the domain of killing and murder that is like saying a berserker is a necromancer.
grave is the anti-undead cleric it is about the sacred rites of burial.

ad&d has a lot of all evil behave similarly not a justification besides when I think fantasy ad&d is not my core go-to.

We're allowed to have different preferences. The game has room for us both!

My post indicated "What I would love to see".

 

[Mind of tempest]

We're allowed to have different preferences. The game has room for us both!

My post indicated "What I would love to see".

it is more why? we do not have a necromancer druid.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

it is more why? we do not have a necromancer druid.

Spore druid?

 

[Mind of tempest]

Spore druid?

forgot about that one.

it is more why let everything be a necromancer when we can just make one really good one?

I have not seen much media with undeath wielding caster powered by religion, necromance has in my experience only been arcane.