You don't help your own cause (whatever it even is now) trying to shoehorn iconic characters like Batman or Robin Hood in some kind of warlord camp. That's all I'm saying. By the standards you guys are throwing around, and you guys are even dancing around the point, all heroic charcters are "warlords" to one degree or another. From Conan to Urkel.
D&D 5E What the warlord needs in 5e and how to make it happen.
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mellored
Legend
Then what class is batman?
Which Batman?
TheCosmicKid
Hero
Wizard. He can beat anyone with prep time.
mellored
Legend
Yes, except he's purely non-magical.
doctorbadwolf
Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Rogue/BMFirhter in solo stories, warlord/rogue in Justice League stories?
Srsly, all the league characters are pretty different when in a JL story, but Batman more than most.
Gradine
🏳️⚧️ (she/her) 🇵🇸
What's funny is that there was a "Vigilante" prestige class in 3.5 that was pretty obviously supposed to be all about being Batman.
The prestige class has spellcasting too.
Zardnaar
Legend
I have been working on an ENworld WL. I have 3 subtypes for it.
Inspiring (healer build, bard dice)
Tactical (superiority dice, bonus damage)
Bravura. (more fighter/aura type).
I have borrowed a lot of the warlordy stuff from various classes and have used a Warlock/Rogue type template. Its a short rest class with lors of abilities that recharge on short restsd and instead of invocations you get exploits which are similar to 4E powers.
At will action granting is gone for the most part. In 5E terms that has been replaced with.
Inspiration and Superiority dice.
At will bonus damage/advantage to hit (a'la Mastermind)
Short rest based attack granting and casting cantrips
Daily action granting.
IN theory the WL can run out of stuff but then its not really any worse off than the other support classes that run out of spells and some of their abilities are at will as well.
Inspiring (healer build, bard dice)
Tactical (superiority dice, bonus damage)
Bravura. (more fighter/aura type).
I have borrowed a lot of the warlordy stuff from various classes and have used a Warlock/Rogue type template. Its a short rest class with lors of abilities that recharge on short restsd and instead of invocations you get exploits which are similar to 4E powers.
At will action granting is gone for the most part. In 5E terms that has been replaced with.
Inspiration and Superiority dice.
At will bonus damage/advantage to hit (a'la Mastermind)
Short rest based attack granting and casting cantrips
Daily action granting.
IN theory the WL can run out of stuff but then its not really any worse off than the other support classes that run out of spells and some of their abilities are at will as well.
TheCosmicKid
Hero
So we're told, but that never really made sense in the context of the greater DCU, given that he's extremely intelligent and self-disciplined, has an omnidisciplinary approach to crimefighting, and trained with Zatanna under Zatara. Gotham City is, as ever, an inexplicably low-powered sub-universe.
But seriously, dude, if Batman has warlord levels, then it's just a handful on top of, like, all the rogue levels. Calling him a warlord is like calling Elminster a fighter.
I think the Doctor of Evil Canines above has it right: In the context of Justice League stories, he contributes with his superior tactical acumen and intelligence, not his fighting skills. He's the strategist whose plans and counter-initiatives allow the league to succeed where they might otherwise fail.
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