D&D 5E What To Do With Racial ASIs?

[Crimson Longinus]

Hey, in comparison that circular arguing about racial ASIs from before seems pretty sensible and interesting now!

 

[DND_Reborn]

Hey, in comparison that circular arguing about racial ASIs from before seems pretty sensible and interesting now!

The best thing is people are still voting for the ASIs in the poll, and due to this threadjack, the thread that will not die continues to survive.

 

[FrogReaver]

Sure. Way more than 4% of 1-3 PCs are Human:

Here Are The Most Popular D&D Feats (War Caster Leads The Pack!)

It's time for some more D&D Beyond stats! This time we take a look at the most popular feats! War Caster, Tough, Lucky, and Sharpshooter lead the pack. We recently looked at stats for adventures, classes by tier, subclasses, and multi class combinations. The last time DDB looked at this, the...

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That data supports my claim. Most people use feats once they hit a high enough level. The only reason feats have an overall lower percent on d&d beyond is because low level characters make up a huge portion of all the characters on the platform. Low level characters don’t take feats very often. That’s something anyone in enworld could have told you.

 

[FrogReaver]

There is a thing I like to tell people in situations like these, that relates to the nature of the internet, and especially debates on the internet.

You’re in a library. Right now, while you are reading this. I know that, because you have to enter the library in order to read this. What you are asking for is for a person who has said, “There is a book by wotc that states that a minority of players take feats”, is for them to go find and retrieve that book for you.

No. You’re in a library. You know how to use the reference cards. You have the necessary terms with which to use the reference cards to find the book. Go get the book at read it yourself.

That’s a lot like asking someone to look through the haystack for a needle after you’ve already found the needle.

 

[FrogReaver]

The biggest problem with data and charts and graphs is that most people suck at interpreting data and charts and graphs.

You’ve got to maintain a keen sense of awareness fir exactly what the data represents and how that might be different from how people traditionally talk on the subject.

D&D beyond measures characters at a snapshot in time. When we normally have discussions about popularity it’s over the whole arc of a characters career - because thats what actually shows whether feats are popular among players.

 

[Maxperson]

The biggest problem with data and charts and graphs is that most people suck at interpreting data and charts and graphs.

You’ve got to maintain a keen sense of awareness fir exactly what the data represents and how that might be different from how people traditionally talk on the subject.

D&D beyond measures characters at a snapshot in time. When we normally have discussions about popularity it’s over the whole arc of a characters career - because thats what actually shows whether feats are popular among players.

Yep. It's pretty clear that most people put their 1st ASI into stats, about half move to a feat at their second ASI, and 58% by their third. And it's probably even higher than that. That arc was for characters and a person might go with more ASI's for one character class and into feats for another. For instance I'm much more likely to start grabbing feats on a fighter or wizard, than on a rogue.

 

[FrogReaver]

Yep. It's pretty clear that most people put their 1st ASI into stats, about half move to a feat at their second ASI, and 58% by their third. And it's probably even higher than that. That arc was for characters and a person might go with more ASI's for one character class and into feats for another. For instance I'm much more likely to start grabbing feats on a fighter or wizard, than on a rogue.

Yep. That you might never take a feat on a particular character doesn’t mean you won’t use them on a different. Many characters to 1 player (or account in this case). I’d be interested to see the per account data. How many accounts have a character that uses feats?

 

[Parmandur]

That data supports my claim. Most people use feats once they hit a high enough level. The only reason feats have an overall lower percent on d&d beyond is because low level characters make up a huge portion of all the characters on the platform. Low level characters don’t take feats very often. That’s something anyone in enworld could have told you.

The two minorities, people who use Feats and people who play past level 10, do overlap, yes.

 

[FrogReaver]

The two minorities, people who use Feats and people who play past level 10, do overlap, yes.

You are talking about people. The data we have tells us nothing about people.

 

[jasper]

Also don’t most of us agree that it’s good for both options to exist?

No. If you don't like the racial bumps: Don't play the race with that class, if it would serious hurt your character concept. Now get off my internet and tear down my wife's side gardern.