D&D Movie/TV What would a good D&D movie be like?

[Celtavian]

...or expanding it.

or killing it by attempting something that has failed...what is it...three times now? What is that definition for insanity? Trying something again and again and again and expecting different results.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Well, apart from Liriel Baenre (Daughter of the Drow) and Jarlaxle (occasionally).

Apologies- never read any D&D fiction.

 

[delericho]

Apologies- never read any D&D fiction.

Having better taste is probably not something you need to apologize for.

 

[delericho]

or killing it by attempting something that has failed...what is it...three times now? What is that definition for insanity? Trying something again and again and again and expecting different results.

There were a lot of things wrong with the existing D&D movies. Not featuring 'name' characters is so far down the list as to be irrelevant.

As long as they don't let Courtney Solomon anywhere near this new film, I'm sure they'll be fine. I mean, letting him serve as, say, Producer - now that would be insane...

 

[Celtavian]

Didn't they try to write some unique movie this time:

Dungeons and Dragons

And the second try:

Wrath of the Dragon God

And the third try:

The Book of Vile Darkness

Having an established story that has proven itself by building a fan base is better than taking a shot at some crap fantasy. Drizz't has stood the test of time as has Dragonlance. WotC needs to go with their winners and boost book sales as well as leveraging into films.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

or killing it by attempting something that has failed...what is it...three times now? What is that definition for insanity? Trying something again and again and again and expecting different results.

Post hoc ergo Procter hoc?


The D&D film franchise- and I use the term VERY loosely- has failed thus far NOT because they contain so few references to touchstones familiar to the gamers, but because of terribad acting and horridiculous scriptwriting combined with an obvious lack of spending money wisely. The Dark Triad of bad filmmaking.

Those films were irredeemably bad- worthy only of the MST3K treatment.

I wouldn't be surprised to find a class-action lawsuit filed a few years from now got all the names involved removed from the projects, so that "Alan Smithee" will add to his screenwriting, acting, directorial, best boy, gaffer, lighting, and food service credits.

 

[transtemporal]

You can't put drow on the big screen, at least not right now. It would be too "triggering" regarding racism and sexism.

Lol, I'm struggling to think what you could be referring to. Drow aren't like any racial group on earth. We aren't unlikely to equate them with any culture on earth either.

They're matriarchal for a start.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Having an established story that has proven itself by building a fan base is better than taking a shot at some crap fantasy.

If and only if those charged with writing the screenplay, casting the film, and doing the acting do a good job. Otherwise, the movie will flop even though it has an established fanbase in the underlying IP.

The annals of Hollywood history are chock full of films based on popular works that are utter wastes of celluloid.

 

[Celtavian]

Post hoc ergo Procter hoc?
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The D&D film franchise- and I use the term VERY loosely- has failed thus far NOT because they contain so few references to touchstones familiar to the gamers, but because of terribad acting and horridiculous scriptwriting combined with an obvious lack of spending money wisely. The Dark Triad of bad filmmaking.

Those films were irredeemably bad- worthy only of the MST3K treatment.

And what would change absent a fictional work to base a D&D movie on? You think someone will magically come up with something interesting based on D&D strictly for a film? Why do think they will? Why do you think it will attract acting talent worth anything? Jeremy Irons was in the first movie. He's usually quite good. I'm wondering why you think some mega-producer would sign on to film a D&D movie with no fictional backbone to work with?

Nearly every single successful fantasy work has been built from a book...or I guess a myth if you include Hercules: The Legendary Journey. Explain why you think some work with no fan base based on the D&D game is going to do well?

 

[Celtavian]

If and only if those charged with writing the screenplay, casting the film, and doing the acting do a good job. Otherwise, the movie will flop even though it has an established fanbase in the underlying IP.

And a film with good acting, casting, and writing could flop if no one has any idea what it is.

Let's make a gentleman's bet. I'm betting you that if D&D decides to make something up, it will fail regardless of the other parts. If they use an established property like Drizz't, they will succeed even if the other parts are weak. As in you have far more room to have a weak opening using a book with an established fan base outside of D&D than you do some made up work based on the game.

And yet every top movie list is filled with films based on popular works be it The Godfather, The Shawshank Redemption. and Lord of the Rings.

D&D has not proven successful making something up. Why not go with one of their proven properties? Because you don't like them?