Whedon off Wonder Woman


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Klaus said:
Klaus "I can draw my own XXX comics" Ooi

You can Kevin Taylor. He's got some pictures of Wonder Woman where you can see...

What were we talking about? Oh. The movie. Well, Whedon was one of the few directors I thought who could have handled the movie well. But he is off the project. Others are is J.J. Abrams, the man who did Superman and the first two X-Men movies, the guy who did the Underworld movie and oh, I don't know, the Brothers W.

But I don't know that any of them would want to even if they were available to handle the project.

So, back to development hell, or delivered into inept hands, much as Fantastic Four was.
 

The Grumpy Celt said:
So, back to development hell, or delivered into inept hands, much as Fantastic Four was.
Well, I never considered FF film to be a failure, just with the mainstream (and you know how I feel about them).
 

Personally, I consider Whedon's departure to be a good thing for one primary reason. He'd already said that he didn't want to use the WW costume.

I can take some jockeying with 'traditional' costumes, like the 'armor' look in Batman Begins and the color alterations in Superman Returns. Both movies, however, used the basic costume elements of the character from the comics. Spiderman did even better, using pretty much exactly the costume from the comics.

For Wonder Woman, she needs to be in some form of the WW costume. Put her in a 'star-spangled' skirt, like in the early appearances, or the 'loincloth' look from 'Kingdom Come,' or even the ridiculous 'Wonder-thong' from several years back (well, maybe not); but put her in some recognizable semblance of the Wonder Woman costume.

That, plus decent acting and a credible villain and storyline (not the Perez reboot and Ares, if you please...it's been done), and it should be a decent flick.

Regards,
Darrell
 

Darrell said:
Personally, I consider Whedon's departure to be a good thing for one primary reason. He'd already said that he didn't want to use the WW costume.

I can take some jockeying with 'traditional' costumes, like the 'armor' look in Batman Begins and the color alterations in Superman Returns. Both movies, however, used the basic costume elements of the character from the comics. Spiderman did even better, using pretty much exactly the costume from the comics.

For Wonder Woman, she needs to be in some form of the WW costume. Put her in a 'star-spangled' skirt, like in the early appearances, or the 'loincloth' look from 'Kingdom Come,' or even the ridiculous 'Wonder-thong' from several years back (well, maybe not); but put her in some recognizable semblance of the Wonder Woman costume.

That, plus decent acting and a credible villain and storyline (not the Perez reboot and Ares, if you please...it's been done), and it should be a decent flick.

Regards,
Darrell
I don't mind the traditional costume, just don't make it strapless. It only worked with Linda Carter and in the 70's. It's the bottom half I'm concerned (though in my fantasy, she's wearing a thong under a sheer peek-a-boo skirt).

I'm afraid this is going to be some kind of "sweet candy" movie, the kind that Hillary Duff would star in (not that she would want to).
 

Darrell said:
Personally, I consider Whedon's departure to be a good thing for one primary reason. He'd already said that he didn't want to use the WW costume.

I can take some jockeying with 'traditional' costumes, like the 'armor' look in Batman Begins and the color alterations in Superman Returns. Both movies, however, used the basic costume elements of the character from the comics. Spiderman did even better, using pretty much exactly the costume from the comics.

For Wonder Woman, she needs to be in some form of the WW costume. Put her in a 'star-spangled' skirt, like in the early appearances, or the 'loincloth' look from 'Kingdom Come,' or even the ridiculous 'Wonder-thong' from several years back (well, maybe not); but put her in some recognizable semblance of the Wonder Woman costume.

That, plus decent acting and a credible villain and storyline (not the Perez reboot and Ares, if you please...it's been done), and it should be a decent flick.

Regards,
Darrell
When has Ares been done in a movie? And please, Xena doesn't count.
 

Klaus said:
When has Ares been done in a movie? And please, Xena doesn't count.

I didn't mean it'd been done in a movie, I meant it had been done, period. Perez' story was fine, but I wouldn't want to see it as the basis for the movie. At the risk of drawing down the fire, I'd prefer a more straightforward 'superhero' WW movie that might give mention to the Ancient Greek area of her origin, but stays well away from dwelling on it. I wouldn't want to see Ares, or Phobos and Deimos, or Medusa, or any of the other Greek-myth elements used as the villains in or basis for the film. I'd rather have 'modern-era' villains.

Regards,
Darrell
 

Ranger REG said:
I don't mind the traditional costume, just don't make it strapless. It only worked with Linda Carter and in the 70's. It's the bottom half I'm concerned (though in my fantasy, she's wearing a thong under a sheer peek-a-boo skirt).

I wouldn't mind it being strapless if they did it 'Perez-style,' and made it a rigid 'armor' type of thing instead of cloth (regardless of how stiff the cloth may be).

Ranger REG said:
I'm afraid this is going to be some kind of "sweet candy" movie, the kind that Hillary Duff would star in (not that she would want to).

I'm kind of afraid of this, too, but I'm willing to give Warner/DC the benefit of the doubt. They (and, of course, the production teams) did a terrific job on Batman Begins, and even managed to make Superman Returns rather enjoyable (even though they held far too tightly to those god-awful Chris Reeve movies for my taste).

Regards,
Darrell
 

Darrell said:
I didn't mean it'd been done in a movie, I meant it had been done, period. Perez' story was fine, but I wouldn't want to see it as the basis for the movie. At the risk of drawing down the fire, I'd prefer a more straightforward 'superhero' WW movie that might give mention to the Ancient Greek area of her origin, but stays well away from dwelling on it. I wouldn't want to see Ares, or Phobos and Deimos, or Medusa, or any of the other Greek-myth elements used as the villains in or basis for the film. I'd rather have 'modern-era' villains.

Regards,
Darrell
But the best thing Perez did was bring to the fore the mythological element of Wonder Woman. Aside from Ares, WW's rogues gallery is pretty thin:
- Cheetah
- Giganta
- Doctor Psycho
- Silver Swan
- Circe
- ...
 

Darrell said:
I wouldn't mind it being strapless if they did it 'Perez-style,' and made it a rigid 'armor' type of thing instead of cloth (regardless of how stiff the cloth may be).
Nope. Gotta have straps. Otherwise, cast Madonna to save wardrobe cost. :p

Darrell said:
I'm kind of afraid of this, too, but I'm willing to give Warner/DC the benefit of the doubt. They (and, of course, the production teams) did a terrific job on Batman Begins, and even managed to make Superman Returns rather enjoyable (even though they held far too tightly to those god-awful Chris Reeve movies for my taste).
Those two are a lot easier and have been accepted by the mainstream, though many have worried prior to Burton's Batman that it will be as campy as the Adam West TV version.

That's why I ask, what direction will Wonder Woman take that would make the audience flock to see it and make $40 million on the opening weekend (something that Nicolas Cage's Ghost Rider did)?
 

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