Wheel of Time Discussion - Spoilers(with book spoilers)

[Parmandur]

The extras state the pictures are ter'angreal. It's unclear whether the place they met actually exists, or is in the dream world, or is a pocket dimension.

I'm pretty sure they used that in the book.

 

[Parmandur]

Thinking on the changes so far...I'm actually really impressed with how they are grounded in the books, rather than some "Producer gone rogue" situation: Perrin's wife is taken from the name of a character Perrin mentions in the book as someone he probably would have married, Siuane and Morraine's relationship is just slightly more explicit than the text (which already made it clear enough, though usually sex and sexuality are offscreen matters in the books). Definitely the work of fans who want to be true to the book, but willing to take creative risks and give it their own spin.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Am I the only one who expected the last episode to end with a disembodied voice saying "you must gather your party before venturing forth"?

 

[Bolares]

Speaking of getting somewhere, Moiraine basically travelled to get to where Suian was when they met in secret. She was one place, invoked the One Power and then was instantly somewhere else. That bugged me a bit as it's a lost art that gets rediscovered during the series and the rediscovery has a lot of impact on things.

I was under the impression it was a pocket dimension of sorts. Connected to the art piece they both had in their rooms, not actually teleportation.

 

[TheSword]

Speaking of getting somewhere, Moiraine basically travelled to get to where Suian was when they met in secret. She was one place, invoked the One Power and then was instantly somewhere else. That bugged me a bit as it's a lost art that gets rediscovered during the series and the rediscovery has a lot of impact on things.

It was a terangreal. The twin locked paintings. Siuan had one on her wall too. I presumed it took them to a place in the world of dreams as her clothing was different there. A secret they shared. There are a few times in the previous episode you see Moiraine looking at it.

 

[TheSword]

That wasn't the impression I got from the books. The impression I got was that the tower was basically like an intense all girls school and a lot of experimentation went on, not that they were temporarily lesbian and grew out of it.

“Novices and Accepted commonly enjoy these relationships as comfort during the hardships of White Tower training, but are viewed as a thing of girlhood[1] and are almost universally abandoned upon gaining the shawl. Some attempt to continue the relationships even as Aes Sedai though.”

This was the summary from the Wiki. Though I could check the source. I remember several quotes where Aes Sedai comment that pillow friends is something for novices.

I think it’s a good thing that they have addressed this. As currently Elaida and Galina where two of the few known gay characters… before Brandon Sanderson came along. We definitely didn’t want the gay-characters-are-evil trope coming along.

 

[TheSword]

What did come across really well is Siuan’s arrogance towards the hall. That eventually causes her such catastrophic proportions. That kinda came out of the blue on the books (no pun intended).

 

[Bolares]

What did come across really well is Siuan’s arrogance towards the hall. That eventually causes her such catastrophic proportions. That kinda came out of the blue on the books (no pun intended).

For me it was hard to differentiate what was a front put to hide her relationship with moiraine and what was her real arrogance

 

[TheSword]

For me it was hard to differentiate what was a front put to hide her relationship with moiraine and what was her real arrogance

Precisely. The other Aes Sedai aren’t going to know the difference.

 

[Maxperson]

“Novices and Accepted commonly enjoy these relationships as comfort during the hardships of White Tower training, but are viewed as a thing of girlhood[1] and are almost universally abandoned upon gaining the shawl. Some attempt to continue the relationships even as Aes Sedai though.”

This was the summary from the Wiki. Though I could check the source. I remember several quotes where Aes Sedai comment that pillow friends is something for novices.

I think it’s a good thing that they have addressed this. As currently Elaida and Galina where two of the few known gay characters… before Brandon Sanderson came along. We definitely didn’t want the gay-characters-are-evil trope coming along.

That doesn't contradict what I said, though. A lot of high school kids experiment and then stop as they figure out who they are. They aren't growing out of being gay, lesbian or bi. They're just moving out of the phase of figuring out who they are.