Where are the angels?

[arscott]

Let's see if I remember my testament correctly. Angels are flying critters with supernatural powers and far too many eyes, right?

Looks to me like they're in the MM under 'beholder'.

 

[Agamemnon]

Me too. I replyed "We're keeping a bigger threat off your back."

That prompted about an hour of discussion as to what was scarier than a Tiamat - Demogorgon alliance of fiends invading the prime, let me tell you.

Another good explanation is the notion of cosmic balance. The Rilmani don't allow Metatron & Co. to start messing with the Prime without evening the cosmic odds some way.

 

[RichGreen]

Another good explanation is the notion of cosmic balance. The Rilmani don't allow Metatron & Co. to start messing with the Prime without evening the cosmic odds some way.

I loved the Rilmani in Planescape -- cool looking and a great concept. In 3.x, they were drawn as blob people. Yuck!

To the original poster: Anger of Angels which others have mentioned is excellent for depicting "proper" angels in D&D, and can be combined with Book of Exalted Deeds etc if you're happy to do a bit of work on the cosmology.

Cheers


Richard

 

[ssampier]

Let's see if I remember my testament correctly. Angels are flying critters with supernatural powers and far too many eyes, right?

Looks to me like they're in the MM under 'beholder'.

I just hope they're not my guardian angel.

*crowers under the blankets*

 

[ssampier]

Man, we could go all day on the anthropology of Santa Claus. The most persuasive explanation I've heard connected him to Pan and Cernunnos and various other fertility-oriented "wild, hairy man" concepts (although Pan is from a little too far south, I'd think). At any rate, it's pretty clear he evolved out of a whole mess of semi-related European Winter Solstice traditions that pre-date Christianity's arrival in the region.

Great stuff. I thought the Santa Claus icon was invented in the 19th century as an advertisement (not Coca-Cola, but another company). I didn't realize the roots were that far back.

 

[Psion]

I loved the Rilmani in Planescape -- cool looking and a great concept. In 3.x, they were drawn as blob people. Yuck!

In 2e, they were drawn as guys with Bushy Mustaches.

I'm not so sure the 3e interpretation is so bad...

 

[Mark Hope]

Great stuff. I thought the Santa Claus icon was invented in the 19th century as an advertisement (not Coca-Cola, but another company). I didn't realize the roots were that far back.

I used to work with a girl from Finland who said that the Santa Claus story was also in part derived from a Finnish myth of a soot-black spirit or wild man who used to visit homes at night around the solstice. As many houses would be snowed-in, with their doors covered in snow-drfits, he would instead come down the chimney. That much at least has apparently survived into the modern era...

 

[reanjr]

Others have suggested the Aasimar (Solar, Planetars, etc.). Archons actually are a much better fit for western , medieval angels, especially the Celestial Hebdomad from the Book of Exalted Deeds. The Aasimar are better for modern new-age angels.

 

[Sejs]

You know what the first thing was, that was ever asked of any angel in the games I ran? This happened every time:
WHY AREN'T YOU DOWN HERE FIXING EVERYTHING AND SAVING EVERYONE? WELL? WELL?!!!

Hold on, let me check my handbook here. *flip flip flip*

Aha, there it is. Page 42. *smile*

Free will.

 

[Brennin Magalus]

If you can locate it, The Avatar's Handbook is worth picking up. Like yourself I wanted the good guys and this book has them in spades (just ignore the Avatar base class)..

I second that recommendation; I prefer it to Anger of Angels.

I also second Varianor's recommendation. (Although, I am not sure he cited the correct book.)