Which is the Best WOTC Setting to Purchase?

To answer your question:

Eberron. No doubt. It's fresh, it's new, it doesn't have mountains upon mountains of editions old material that when contradicted will cause the fans to erupt in a violent effulgence of 'omg it iz teh sux' comments. It also isn't Epic Tolkien Fantasy, something which I think only Greyhawk does well. It has more prominent low-level magic than GH or FR, but high level stuff is rare and is usually in the hands of the many villains.

Not to say that I don't like FR, but too much of it annoys me, from the almost incompetant James Bond-esque 'villains' of the setting, to the overly manipulative gods, the quite prominent high-level NPC's (sure, you CAN ignore them, but they are a feature of the setting), and the overabundance of elvish subraces.

To confuse your question:
Iron Kingdoms, a sort-of sword and steam styled campaign is really good. Very good B&W art and especially high production values. It most definitely is not Tolkien styled and really the only reason I rank it lower than Eberron on my taste-o-meter is because some of the rules usage is kinda clunky at times. Other than that, it's solid god.

Wilderlands of High Fantasy has been getting some rave reviews, almost enough to encourage me to buy it... if I weren't poor. :(

On the whole WotC vs d20 angle:
Eh. There're some good d20 books and some good WotC books. WotC has excellent production values, but so do a few d20 companies. WotC gets flack for not having enough flavor in their books, which is somewhat of an erroneous statement. Races of Stone has lots of flavor. So do the other Races series. Draco, Libris Mortis, and Lords of Madness are chock full of flavor, as are 95% of their campaign setting books. Manual of the Planes is 85% flavor. So, it IS there, but for whatever reasons, some seem to focus only on the Complete books (which also have some flavor).

It's almost as equally erroneous as saying that only WotC stuff is good.

I own some good 3rd-party stuff (Monsternomicon, Iron Kingdom's Character Guide, Book of Fiends), some baaaaad 3rd party stuff (Demons and Devils), and the boringly mediocre (Path of the Sword, Arcana Evolved). I also own the Epic Level Handbook by WotC, probably the lowest of their low and the Draconomicon, a book that kicks all sorts of rear.

For good 3rd-party stuff, Green Ronin, Privateer Press, Necromancer Games, and Malhavoc continually put out quality releases. Privateer Press, in particular, rocks. Everything they put out wins. :)
 

log in or register to remove this ad

Nightfall said:
Grumpy,

Yeah well something I plan to rectify when I get my SCLS: Revised, done and everything...

Even so, I'll take the not so much daming with faint praise as praise with only slightly damning. ;)

mhac,

yeah well T-billy is kind of being nicer than I am. ;)

Shemmy,

Well maybe so, but few can say that they are one of the premier NPCs in a setting. Such as myself in the Scarred Lands.


Yeah, and I will admit that the best of Scarred lands was very, very good. Hollowfaust in particular was wonderful.

I loved the nature of the war between the Gods and the Titans, though it seemed that S&S stumbled with that toward the end. (Errr, if it a cycle that only happened once then it is not a cycle... so don't call it that. And if it is a cycle, but no one remembers it then it does not count.) And Mithril was not nearly what I had hoped it would be after reading Hollowfaust. (Did I mention that I really, really liked Hollowfaust? No faint praise for that one!)

Both volumes of Relics and Rituals was very good as well. Ditto for the first two Creature Collections. Calastia was both very good and rather bad - I liked the setting, but hated the prestige classes. And so on and so on.

And if you ever do come out with a revised edition I will likely purchase it. :)

The Auld Grump (Hollowfaust...
 


Grump,

Well trust me, I plan on fixing some stuff when I do. But honestly first need a publisher. :p ;)

But yeah well I must say Hollowfaust set the bar rather high...and honestly there's only SO much you can do with a city filled with LG clerics and paladins, Blood Sea not withstanding.

Pants,

I stand by your assessment of the PUBLISHERS, not necessarily your choice of material. (Well except Book of Fiends. That does rock.)

Whiz,

That or a severe case of "Ooh I'm stupid!!" Well maybe not stupid but I'm a WotC shill.
 

mhacdebhandia said:
So far, half a dozen replies and only two or three answers to the question. Good going, team!
The team is not tasked with slavishly answering all questions. The team is tasked with discussing D20 and is well within its rights to point out a serious misconception when it appears.
 


drothgery said:
1) Non-WotC settings aren't necessarily all bad, but none of them have even close to the getting level of support that FR and Eberron get
Count up how many Eberron supplements there are and then count up how many Freeport supplements there are (and include the RPGNow Freeport content).
 
Last edited:


Just to throw in my 2 coppers worth, I would pick Eberon. I really enjoy "the start from a blank sheet" approach. I think the setting has a new take on the fantasy setting that is both traditional (there are kingdoms rather than democratic republic) and fresh (the lightning rail and warforged) The idea that goblinoids and giants are the oldest empires and have collapsed is really interesting to me. I also think the dragonmarked houses are such a cool idea and add a different and somewhat modern dynamic to the world. (multi-national virtual monopolies on certain industies)
 

Pants said:
I own some good 3rd-party stuff..., some baaaaad 3rd party stuff..., and the boringly mediocre (... Arcana Evolved).

Well, this is definitely a matter of taste, but maybe you mistake Monte's style for the contents of the book. When I first read Arcana Unearthed, I fell asleep :D. It took me a second attempt to discover the loads of great ideas that book contains :).
 

Pets & Sidekicks

Remove ads

Top